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<blockquote data-quote="jaelis" data-source="post: 7355959" data-attributes="member: 60210">There is a similarly large and IMO even more clear discussion of what an attack is. By &quot;common understanding&quot; though, surely any attack in melee is a melee attack? Anyway why would it be perverse to let a dragon breath fire as an opportunity attack?If you want a narrative explanation:Invisibility requires that you keep your attention focused on being unseen. When you make a targeted attack against a creature, you have to focus your attention on that creature. If you set of an area effect like dragon breath or a bomb, you don't really have to pay attention to anything. Maybe you are aware there is a creature in the blast area, but you don't have to focus on who it is and what it is doing. That allows you to maintain the invisibility effect.That works fine for me, and probably better than any narrative explanation I have for why it would pop in response to hostile intent. (Since I guess that breathing fire into empty space would not count as an attack? It's only if there is an enemy in the area? Maybe that you have to be aware of?)It is good then that no one is saying that. I think the discussion is about what the rule says, not whether you have to follow it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jaelis, post: 7355959, member: 60210"] There is a similarly large and IMO even more clear discussion of what an attack is. By "common understanding" though, surely any attack in melee is a melee attack? Anyway why would it be perverse to let a dragon breath fire as an opportunity attack? If you want a narrative explanation: Invisibility requires that you keep your attention focused on being unseen. When you make a targeted attack against a creature, you have to focus your attention on that creature. If you set of an area effect like dragon breath or a bomb, you don't really have to pay attention to anything. Maybe you are aware there is a creature in the blast area, but you don't have to focus on who it is and what it is doing. That allows you to maintain the invisibility effect. That works fine for me, and probably better than any narrative explanation I have for why it would pop in response to hostile intent. (Since I guess that breathing fire into empty space would not count as an attack? It's only if there is an enemy in the area? Maybe that you have to be aware of?) It is good then that no one is saying that. I think the discussion is about what the rule says, not whether you have to follow it. [/QUOTE]

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