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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 7869907" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>No, I think he's saying that he's tired of this sort of crap. I think he's saying he's tired of people at the very first opportunity that they can accusing him of being what is literally the most socially unacceptable thing that you can accuse people of, and that being culturally and socially "Ok" and people are afraid to even call people on it unless they are the target of the same sort of behavior. I think he's tired of people in power, part of the dominate culture, acting as if this behavior is some sort of bravery on their part when it's really no more than rudeness masquerading as virtue. And I think he's saying that even when you declare your agreement with the goals, if you criticize any part of the platform having to defend yourself from the now ubiquitous charge of "racism" is just as tiring as it is ridiculous. We're in a society where you can get away with just about any sort of infamy save the tinge of "racism" and where everyone is accused of it all the time. And it's all so much obvious hypocrisy and not actually any superior care and concern for people, but just an argumentative technique to justify what you already believe by linking it all together in one big mass where questioning any bit of it gets immediate charges of "racism".</p><p></p><p>Which is exactly what happened here. He gets one bit off the message, and he's immediately hit with charges of "racism" by someone on line that doesn't know really anything about him. It's just another example of the larger cultural hypocrisy, proven by the fact that when these charges of "racism" don't advance the cause the person - say he's the Prime Minister of Canada or the Governor of an important battleground State and he's in your party - he gets a free pass. And the "#metoo" charges come thick, right until they start circling around to the In Group, and then they go silent because it was never really about being more compassionate, it was just a weapon in a culture war.</p><p></p><p>And let's bring this back to gaming. It seems Johanthan Tweet had good intentions and I do and have applauded his work. But this for me will always be D&D. This is probably my favorite D&D piece of art of all time. I encountered this when I was like 8 or something like that, and I thought it was awesome. [ATTACH=full]116696[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>It's always never enough to just have good intentions. It's seems that we always have to at the same time say how much better we are doing than the past. It reminds me so much of the marketing of 4e, where they didn't just say, "Hey, we're making this sweet game", but they had to just crap all over 3e by pronouncing just how terrible of a game it was and just how badly designed it was. It turned me off 4e even before I got a chance to see it, because though I had some problems with 3e, I thought it was the best system overall I'd ever seen and anyone that thought it was terrible was a person whose opinions I didn't trust. And you know what, I think history kind of vindicated that the 4e designers weren't nearly as smart as they pronounced themselves to be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 7869907, member: 4937"] No, I think he's saying that he's tired of this sort of crap. I think he's saying he's tired of people at the very first opportunity that they can accusing him of being what is literally the most socially unacceptable thing that you can accuse people of, and that being culturally and socially "Ok" and people are afraid to even call people on it unless they are the target of the same sort of behavior. I think he's tired of people in power, part of the dominate culture, acting as if this behavior is some sort of bravery on their part when it's really no more than rudeness masquerading as virtue. And I think he's saying that even when you declare your agreement with the goals, if you criticize any part of the platform having to defend yourself from the now ubiquitous charge of "racism" is just as tiring as it is ridiculous. We're in a society where you can get away with just about any sort of infamy save the tinge of "racism" and where everyone is accused of it all the time. And it's all so much obvious hypocrisy and not actually any superior care and concern for people, but just an argumentative technique to justify what you already believe by linking it all together in one big mass where questioning any bit of it gets immediate charges of "racism". Which is exactly what happened here. He gets one bit off the message, and he's immediately hit with charges of "racism" by someone on line that doesn't know really anything about him. It's just another example of the larger cultural hypocrisy, proven by the fact that when these charges of "racism" don't advance the cause the person - say he's the Prime Minister of Canada or the Governor of an important battleground State and he's in your party - he gets a free pass. And the "#metoo" charges come thick, right until they start circling around to the In Group, and then they go silent because it was never really about being more compassionate, it was just a weapon in a culture war. And let's bring this back to gaming. It seems Johanthan Tweet had good intentions and I do and have applauded his work. But this for me will always be D&D. This is probably my favorite D&D piece of art of all time. I encountered this when I was like 8 or something like that, and I thought it was awesome. [ATTACH type="full"]116696[/ATTACH] It's always never enough to just have good intentions. It's seems that we always have to at the same time say how much better we are doing than the past. It reminds me so much of the marketing of 4e, where they didn't just say, "Hey, we're making this sweet game", but they had to just crap all over 3e by pronouncing just how terrible of a game it was and just how badly designed it was. It turned me off 4e even before I got a chance to see it, because though I had some problems with 3e, I thought it was the best system overall I'd ever seen and anyone that thought it was terrible was a person whose opinions I didn't trust. And you know what, I think history kind of vindicated that the 4e designers weren't nearly as smart as they pronounced themselves to be. [/QUOTE]
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