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<blockquote data-quote="Bacon Bits" data-source="post: 7869909" data-attributes="member: 6777737"><p>I'm saying I can understand why someone who sees another thread titled, "Diversity in D&D," might feel tired by it even if they agree with it. I think [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER]'s comment earlier that these threads exhaust him is a perfect example. There <em>isn't</em> any new discussion and it is the same points over and over. The threads get slowly more civil as time has gone on and people change their minds, but it's a painfully slow process. It will require older generations to literally die out for them to change. I absolutely sympathize with the poor mods who are responsible for keeping the peace. I think one major reason reason the forum rules tell us to avoid real world politics in discussions is because in a very real sense these discussions <em>don't</em> belong here even when they're tangential. People want it to be a refuge from the real world. I sure as heck wouldn't come here if the topics looked like Twitter or the political forums on Reddit.</p><p></p><p>There are some social graces at work, too. Lots of people don't talk politics, religion, or sex with friends, family, or coworkers. There are several social situations where they're taboo subjects or even plainly forbidden (e.g., a funeral, small talk with strangers, at work, etc.).</p><p></p><p>Lots of people when they want to talk about their hobby don't want to talk about or think about the real world politics because they use it as an escape. I don't think that's unreasonable, and I don't think it's unreasonable to voice that opinion. I do think it's unreasonable to be upset that some people say they don't want to talk about politics, particularly because some people always get upset when people <em>do</em> talk about politics.</p><p></p><p>I do say that there's a tremendous difference between someone saying, "I'm so tired of this topic," or, "I wish we didn't have to talk about this," and someone saying, "this isn't something that should change in this hobby," or, "I think it's wrong for the hobby become more diverse." I also think a lot of people who are all about championing a social cause wherever it is are the kind of people who don't see a difference there at all.</p><p></p><p>Think of it this way. You go to your new SO's home for your first holiday party or dinner with them. They warn you their family feels different than they do, and the first three people you see are wearing MAGA hats (or Bernie Sanders hats, or whatever). If your reaction isn't to feel some measure of exhaustion from or aversion to how you imagine the upcoming hours going, then I don't know how to express the kind of fatigue or exhaustion I'm talking about. If your reaction is just to feel outraged about it, that's just doubly exhausting for everyone else.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bacon Bits, post: 7869909, member: 6777737"] I'm saying I can understand why someone who sees another thread titled, "Diversity in D&D," might feel tired by it even if they agree with it. I think [USER=1]@Morrus[/USER]'s comment earlier that these threads exhaust him is a perfect example. There [I]isn't[/I] any new discussion and it is the same points over and over. The threads get slowly more civil as time has gone on and people change their minds, but it's a painfully slow process. It will require older generations to literally die out for them to change. I absolutely sympathize with the poor mods who are responsible for keeping the peace. I think one major reason reason the forum rules tell us to avoid real world politics in discussions is because in a very real sense these discussions [I]don't[/I] belong here even when they're tangential. People want it to be a refuge from the real world. I sure as heck wouldn't come here if the topics looked like Twitter or the political forums on Reddit. There are some social graces at work, too. Lots of people don't talk politics, religion, or sex with friends, family, or coworkers. There are several social situations where they're taboo subjects or even plainly forbidden (e.g., a funeral, small talk with strangers, at work, etc.). Lots of people when they want to talk about their hobby don't want to talk about or think about the real world politics because they use it as an escape. I don't think that's unreasonable, and I don't think it's unreasonable to voice that opinion. I do think it's unreasonable to be upset that some people say they don't want to talk about politics, particularly because some people always get upset when people [I]do[/I] talk about politics. I do say that there's a tremendous difference between someone saying, "I'm so tired of this topic," or, "I wish we didn't have to talk about this," and someone saying, "this isn't something that should change in this hobby," or, "I think it's wrong for the hobby become more diverse." I also think a lot of people who are all about championing a social cause wherever it is are the kind of people who don't see a difference there at all. Think of it this way. You go to your new SO's home for your first holiday party or dinner with them. They warn you their family feels different than they do, and the first three people you see are wearing MAGA hats (or Bernie Sanders hats, or whatever). If your reaction isn't to feel some measure of exhaustion from or aversion to how you imagine the upcoming hours going, then I don't know how to express the kind of fatigue or exhaustion I'm talking about. If your reaction is just to feel outraged about it, that's just doubly exhausting for everyone else. [/QUOTE]
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