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<blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 7870017" data-attributes="member: 7015558">To amend your statement, &quot;if someone you knew was a serial killer said it, is it an invalid argument?&quot; (not using the devil because that's an unrealistic abstraction, need something more literal).Not necessarily. But you already know that the person is capable of frankly immoral acts. So whatever they say you can already view with far more doubt of sincere &quot;good intentions,&quot; because you already know they've intentionally done immoral acts.Same goes for people you know (if they're using slurs, that's pretty good proof) are racists/sexists. You know that they're capable of having bigoted opinions. So why should people take their arguments seriously, when we know that they're POV is already skewed in favor of their own terrible opinions?TLDR: If the devil said it, it's probably an invalid argument.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Urriak Uruk, post: 7870017, member: 7015558"] To amend your statement, "if someone you knew was a serial killer said it, is it an invalid argument?" (not using the devil because that's an unrealistic abstraction, need something more literal). Not necessarily. But you already know that the person is capable of frankly immoral acts. So whatever they say you can already view with far more doubt of sincere "good intentions," because you already know they've intentionally done immoral acts. Same goes for people you know (if they're using slurs, that's pretty good proof) are racists/sexists. You know that they're capable of having bigoted opinions. So why should people take their arguments seriously, when we know that they're POV is already skewed in favor of their own terrible opinions? TLDR: If the devil said it, it's [I]probably [/I]an invalid argument. [/QUOTE]

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