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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Urriak Uruk" data-source="post: 7870166" data-attributes="member: 7015558">While you are in practice correct, you're missing why motive is important.Darth Sidious can use as much fact and logic as possible to prove he is correct that dictatorship is the most peaceful and stable form of government. He may even be correct. But because his motive for why he is making that argument has nothing to do with the actual accuracy of his beliefs, his entire premise is thrown into doubt, and to a large degree invalidates his own argument.It also, a step further, removes legitimacy from the people who legitimately have pure motives but agree with the selfish.For example, lets say Grand Moff Tarkin legitimately believes that the Empire is the most stable form of government, and is just a "good old soldier" doing his best to preserve the peace through his own means; he does not take pleasure/pride in his actions, but is doing them because he truly believes the Empire is good and that rebellion is bad.On paper, the Grand Moff has moral motives as he believes in his cause and has not selfish ulterior motive. But because his actions are not just propping up the Empire, but also protecting the Emperor (and by proxy, the Emperor's selfish motives), the Grand Moff is inadvertently supporting selfish and immoral people.The same applies to those who agree with racists/sexists. People may agree with them on certain arguments; but by supporting their arguments, you are giving them legitimacy, legitimacy that they are using not to actualize the merits of the arguments, but instead to continue propagating their selfish immoral racist/sexist ways.Essentially, in an ideal world we would like to divorce fact/logic from motive. But this is not possible, and you must ask yourself; does my argument, however good my intentions are, support the lifestyle and opinions of those you are selfish and immoral? If the answer is "yes," one must reevaluate the strength of that argument entirely.</blockquote>

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