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<blockquote data-quote="Coroc" data-source="post: 7871641" data-attributes="member: 6895991"><p>Now i have to criticize you, you take things out of context in just cutting out a daming statement.</p><p>I do not think [USER=6801299]@Horwath[/USER] postet his own modern world view here it is maybe a world view which was valid historically to some point, maybe not so much with other context and conditions.</p><p>You can easily counter this by asking, why then so many people wanted a son as a first child back then, if women were so valuable.</p><p>From a purely evolution-biological standpoint without morals there is no factual error in what he wrote.</p><p>On the other hand women back then tended to get many children whether they wanted or not. And all of them had to be fed also. And it was expected, at least after mankind settled down that a man having many women and children could provide the food and shelter for them and could protect them.</p><p></p><p>Our modern values in society applied to Horwarths statement of course find it instantly condemming, after all we are humans who should have some sort of ethics, and not farm cattle.</p><p></p><p>Everything i wrote above now and some of that Horwarth wrote is not the kind of stuff i would expect to come up in an D&D rpg as being a denominator or justification for any kind of discrimination.</p><p></p><p>I do allow racial hatred or machismo or dislike in the caseof elves vs orcs, or elves vs dwarves, i do allow it to get extreme, but not intra party, only mob vs party. If i got an elf and an dwarf in a party, some stupid prejustice comments about dwarven women not to be recognizable as such because of their beards, or elves being tree huggers, i do allow this. Because it is purely fictional.</p><p></p><p>But with all the restrictions i normally apply as houserules in my settings, i never would rule like : "Oh you are a woman, play something appropriate, you cannot be the party tank". Does just not happen at my table. I got female players at my table and they are allowed to play any class any gender that male players are allowed also. It simply is not important for me or my story.</p><p></p><p>I sometimes do even restrict race/class combos but i never ever do restrict gender/class or do rules for gender/attribute. It does not help any story worth telling in my campaigns.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coroc, post: 7871641, member: 6895991"] Now i have to criticize you, you take things out of context in just cutting out a daming statement. I do not think [USER=6801299]@Horwath[/USER] postet his own modern world view here it is maybe a world view which was valid historically to some point, maybe not so much with other context and conditions. You can easily counter this by asking, why then so many people wanted a son as a first child back then, if women were so valuable. From a purely evolution-biological standpoint without morals there is no factual error in what he wrote. On the other hand women back then tended to get many children whether they wanted or not. And all of them had to be fed also. And it was expected, at least after mankind settled down that a man having many women and children could provide the food and shelter for them and could protect them. Our modern values in society applied to Horwarths statement of course find it instantly condemming, after all we are humans who should have some sort of ethics, and not farm cattle. Everything i wrote above now and some of that Horwarth wrote is not the kind of stuff i would expect to come up in an D&D rpg as being a denominator or justification for any kind of discrimination. I do allow racial hatred or machismo or dislike in the caseof elves vs orcs, or elves vs dwarves, i do allow it to get extreme, but not intra party, only mob vs party. If i got an elf and an dwarf in a party, some stupid prejustice comments about dwarven women not to be recognizable as such because of their beards, or elves being tree huggers, i do allow this. Because it is purely fictional. But with all the restrictions i normally apply as houserules in my settings, i never would rule like : "Oh you are a woman, play something appropriate, you cannot be the party tank". Does just not happen at my table. I got female players at my table and they are allowed to play any class any gender that male players are allowed also. It simply is not important for me or my story. I sometimes do even restrict race/class combos but i never ever do restrict gender/class or do rules for gender/attribute. It does not help any story worth telling in my campaigns. [/QUOTE]
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