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<blockquote data-quote="Whimsical" data-source="post: 2324095" data-attributes="member: 3976"><p>Since <em>scry</em> requires a will save, a DC 25 + spell level <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/SPELLCRAFT.html" target="_blank">Spellcraft</a> check can have the target determine that they were targeted by a <em><a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/spells/Scrying.html" target="_blank">scrying</a></em> spell after rolling a saving throw against the <em>scrying</em>. No action required.</p><p></p><p>My DM doesn't use 3.5 <em>scrying</em>, so I would every so often make <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/magic_overview/Divination.html" target="_blank">an intelligence check against DC 20</a> to detect any scry sensors in the area. Normally I would take 20 to do this if I had the time.</p><p></p><p>Even if I didn't sense any <em>scrying</em> sensors (but absolutly when I did), any time that we would discuss any sensetive information I would cast a <em><a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/spells/Message.html" target="_blank">message</a></em> spell on all of the party members and have everyone cover their mouths while we whispered to each other so that our lips couldn't be read. This was the simplest and best countermeasure that I could think of against <em>scrying</em> or any conventional spying that we weren't aware of. Although someone who made a DC 25 + distance <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/LISTEN.html" target="_blank">Listen</a> check would be able to hear the content of our whispers. Most people who can cast <em>scrying</em> would not be able to hit that. And even then I had a chart of the languages that everyone knew and I would use the most obscure language that I could with the people I wanted to communicate with. Another idea that I have used is to use the <em>"delivering a secret message"</em> ability of the <a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/BLUFF.html" target="_blank">Bluff</a> skill for quick messages or communicating while around other people. If I wanted to quickly communicate with someone while a scry sensor was around, I would whisper directly into the ear of the person, preferably in an unCommon language.</p><p></p><p>Just recently, my bard 10/rogue 2 picked up <em><a href="http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/spells/Detect_Scrying.html" target="_blank">detect scrying</a></em> as his first 4th level spell. The fact that I did that indicates how serious a problem <em>scrying</em> has been for us.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whimsical, post: 2324095, member: 3976"] Since [i]scry[/i] requires a will save, a DC 25 + spell level [url=http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/SPELLCRAFT.html]Spellcraft[/url] check can have the target determine that they were targeted by a [i][url=http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/spells/Scrying.html]scrying[/url][/i] spell after rolling a saving throw against the [i]scrying[/i]. No action required. My DM doesn't use 3.5 [i]scrying[/i], so I would every so often make [url=http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/magic_overview/Divination.html]an intelligence check against DC 20[/url] to detect any scry sensors in the area. Normally I would take 20 to do this if I had the time. Even if I didn't sense any [i]scrying[/i] sensors (but absolutly when I did), any time that we would discuss any sensetive information I would cast a [i][url=http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/spells/Message.html]message[/url][/i] spell on all of the party members and have everyone cover their mouths while we whispered to each other so that our lips couldn't be read. This was the simplest and best countermeasure that I could think of against [i]scrying[/i] or any conventional spying that we weren't aware of. Although someone who made a DC 25 + distance [url=http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/LISTEN.html]Listen[/url] check would be able to hear the content of our whispers. Most people who can cast [i]scrying[/i] would not be able to hit that. And even then I had a chart of the languages that everyone knew and I would use the most obscure language that I could with the people I wanted to communicate with. Another idea that I have used is to use the [i]"delivering a secret message"[/i] ability of the [url=http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/skills/BLUFF.html]Bluff[/url] skill for quick messages or communicating while around other people. If I wanted to quickly communicate with someone while a scry sensor was around, I would whisper directly into the ear of the person, preferably in an unCommon language. Just recently, my bard 10/rogue 2 picked up [i][url=http://www.systemreferencedocuments.org/35/theraven_stephenh/spells/Detect_Scrying.html]detect scrying[/url][/i] as his first 4th level spell. The fact that I did that indicates how serious a problem [i]scrying[/i] has been for us. [/QUOTE]
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