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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CombatWombat51" data-source="post: 1262934" data-attributes="member: 10473">Ok, I'll stand in the minority... diviniations bother me. Sure, I can use magic, fickle gods, deception, and vagueness to defeat them, but then what's the point in using them? IMO, that's like saying the solution to a party all with +20 swords is enemies with more hit points. The easier solution would be to dump the +20 swords, or in this case, the divinations.High-level political intrigue with nobles yadda yadda can be thwarted with the fancy stuff listed above, but I'm talking about low-level/non political bad dudes.I'll also scoff at this 'evidence' thing. And of course 'might makes right'! When's the last time the party arrested the marauding orcs and held a trial for them by their peers? I'm no authority, but way back when, I'd be willing to bet that evidence was mostly witnesses and lacks of alibis. Physical evidence wasn't all that common, I'm willing to bet. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if trials were 'guilty until proven innocent', which happens in advanced countries even today. Sir Harry says serf Don raped his maid, then Don better start praying, cuz I bet 'the court' won't believe Don's family when they protest. "Of course you'd deny that Don commited a crime, you're his family!"Anyhow, IMC, I just erased most of the divinations out of the PHB (along with most teleportation and raise dead stuff). I think a divination here or there (augury) is ok, but the rest of it doesn't fit IMC.</blockquote>

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