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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dmnqwk" data-source="post: 6780608" data-attributes="member: 6804204">Since Arcane and Divine Magic has been diminished as a focus in 5th edition as well as Cure Wounds given away to many more classes, I feel 5th edition Clerics are lacking in a focus to make them an effective participant in combat. They can be amazing healers, granted, but I think they lack any semblance of offense in most situations.I don't think Clerics receive enough offense to consider pruning their spell list advantages, not when you consider Wizards can theoretically buy scrolls to gain an overwhelming number of spells, but honestly in 5th edition I played a cleric and I just felt like I was playing a weak Bard (especially as Clerics lack any Healing Cantrip, even one limited to only healing players as a reaction, or up to half their health). Offensively Clerics bring little to the table with how damage stacks up and their Cantrip is among the worst out there, requiring a Dex saving throw instead of an attack roll is crazy in design.I would be hesitant to try and fix the idea Clerics get utility in spellcasting until I fixed their offensive power level to bring something to the table to justify having one along instead of a Druid or Bard.</blockquote>