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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 4974428" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>The problem only exists for creatures that can lay down a mark for a duration other than a turn. That's Divine Challenge (easily circumvented) and this -one- monster. Oh and a single Fighter power, maybe.</p><p></p><p>I just don't see the need to go all errata on this. One is circumvented by a shift of one square... is an errata -really- necessary just to cover -one- single monster?</p><p></p><p>That's not much of a problem. Very few PC marks have any sort of persistant duration. I have no problem with a mark lasting while the PC is dying. If you're that low on hps to begin with, maybe marking is a -bad tactical decision- and this is one of the reasons why. </p><p></p><p>If there's a need for errata, it's for what effects do and don't go away when you die. That's a problem with -death- not with the marking rules.</p><p></p><p>Again, the problem is the rules for character -death- and how it applies to effects in general, not to marks themselves. Let's focus on the -real- issue here.</p><p></p><p>-If- there is errata necessary, it is -not- for the marked condition. As indicated above, the problem is in how death effects effects in general. -That- is where the rules break down.</p><p></p><p>Other than that tho, marking works -just fine- and thusly, errata are a waste of resources.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: Not having my books handy, isn't there something that says your effects end if you die? If that's the case, well, then marking is certainly covered as well. I know I use that as a houserule, with the exception of save ending conditions.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 4974428, member: 71571"] The problem only exists for creatures that can lay down a mark for a duration other than a turn. That's Divine Challenge (easily circumvented) and this -one- monster. Oh and a single Fighter power, maybe. I just don't see the need to go all errata on this. One is circumvented by a shift of one square... is an errata -really- necessary just to cover -one- single monster? That's not much of a problem. Very few PC marks have any sort of persistant duration. I have no problem with a mark lasting while the PC is dying. If you're that low on hps to begin with, maybe marking is a -bad tactical decision- and this is one of the reasons why. If there's a need for errata, it's for what effects do and don't go away when you die. That's a problem with -death- not with the marking rules. Again, the problem is the rules for character -death- and how it applies to effects in general, not to marks themselves. Let's focus on the -real- issue here. -If- there is errata necessary, it is -not- for the marked condition. As indicated above, the problem is in how death effects effects in general. -That- is where the rules break down. Other than that tho, marking works -just fine- and thusly, errata are a waste of resources. EDIT: Not having my books handy, isn't there something that says your effects end if you die? If that's the case, well, then marking is certainly covered as well. I know I use that as a houserule, with the exception of save ending conditions. [/QUOTE]
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