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Divine Challenge: Switching targets means you don't have to engage?
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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5004896" data-attributes="member: 51942"><p>Like every other power in the game, the rules of Divine Challenge apply to <em>each target challenged</em>. When you Divine Challenge some monster X you must "execute" <em>all</em> rules text of Divine Challenge. When you challenge another monster Y you must <em>again</em> execute all rules text of Divine challenge; this time vs. Y.</p><p></p><p>So let's take your example:</p><p></p><p></p><p>In round two, for the <em>first instance of divine challenge (the one you used in round 1)</em> you've fulfilled the need to either engage or challenge someone else. However, in round 2 you used divine challenge again! The target of this new divine challenge suffers the full effect of Divine Challenge, not some limited form thereof - just like every other power in the game.</p><p></p><p>The Divine Challenge you use in Round two is just like the one in round one, and it also states that you must engage or challenge someone else. If you run around the battlefield; you're doing neither. Thus, to avoid violating the second DC's requirements after using it you must either challenge a new opponent - <em>impossible</em> - or engage.</p><p></p><p>Note that the requirement is not "have challenged another opponent at some earlier point in time" it is "challenge". When you challenge an opponent, any previous challenges are not relevant to fulfilling this new Challenge.</p><p></p><p>Divine challenge is a power like any other in that each usage is a new usage which performs the full rules text. You cannot circumvent one instance's requirements satisfying another's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="eamon, post: 5004896, member: 51942"] Like every other power in the game, the rules of Divine Challenge apply to [I]each target challenged[/I]. When you Divine Challenge some monster X you must "execute" [I]all[/I] rules text of Divine Challenge. When you challenge another monster Y you must [I]again[/I] execute all rules text of Divine challenge; this time vs. Y. So let's take your example: In round two, for the [I]first instance of divine challenge (the one you used in round 1)[/I] you've fulfilled the need to either engage or challenge someone else. However, in round 2 you used divine challenge again! The target of this new divine challenge suffers the full effect of Divine Challenge, not some limited form thereof - just like every other power in the game. The Divine Challenge you use in Round two is just like the one in round one, and it also states that you must engage or challenge someone else. If you run around the battlefield; you're doing neither. Thus, to avoid violating the second DC's requirements after using it you must either challenge a new opponent - [I]impossible[/I] - or engage. Note that the requirement is not "have challenged another opponent at some earlier point in time" it is "challenge". When you challenge an opponent, any previous challenges are not relevant to fulfilling this new Challenge. Divine challenge is a power like any other in that each usage is a new usage which performs the full rules text. You cannot circumvent one instance's requirements satisfying another's. [/QUOTE]
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