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Message: <blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 1605993" data-attributes="member: 1165">I can. More options are good, more broken options are bad. (You can "stack" options, remember.)In any event I didn't find CW to be all that broken, other than a few PrCs (and some of the feats were overpowered, too - but it was WotC's first try so I cut them slack on that) but I can hardly believe they brought back the frenzied berserker. Plus I can't believe how much they screwed up the samurai, ronin* and "spell-less" ranger. But the worst part was 70% prestige classes, in a book that was supposed to provide options for warrior classes. Their options didn't involve staying in those classes! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad    :mad:"  data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" />Complete Divine didn't overdo the prestige classes, although once again it introduced a bunch of pathetic (Entropomancer), wonky (Ur-Priest) and overpowered (Radiant Servant of Pelor) prestige classes and a bunch of broken feats specifically designed to break metacap.I won't spend a dollar on either book, but if a player wanted to waste money on Complete Warrior, I'd let the feats in (with a few modifications, of course). The Complete Divine gets shown the door, however.*Here's news for WotC:Westerners like myself didn't appreciate this "westernized" samurai. I knew it wasn't accurate before I went hunting for the Book of Five Rings. You can find that online; you don't have to go hunting through the rare book section of any library.You can go hunting through the WotC library for a copy of OA.OA did the Samurai better by making it a flexible class with different fighting styles.OA did the dual-wielding samurai better (as a prestige class and as feats!).OA knew what a ronin was.Musashi, the dual-wielding "samurai" was actually a ronin! (So much for that terrible ronin PrC!)The samurai class gives you a specific fighting style from the start, sort of like the 3.0 ranger. That's not how you design a base class, that's how you design a prestige class.It's based on a single representative of the class, like the 3.0 ranger.It's based on a single inaccurate representative of the class, like the 3.0 ranger.It has that exact same problem as the ranger. Why fix the class and just bring the crud back?</blockquote>

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