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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 1619060" data-attributes="member: 1622"><p>Personally, I think it's much more broken with persistant spell than maximize (but that's the fault of persistant). Sure, it's 7 turn attempts, but it changes all those useful spells from a round or a min per level to all day. Maximize gives +25 points of damage on average to one spell, or 12 damage if they make their save. Big deal. And don't forget... that's 3 feats, all so you can maximize two spells per day for free? Whatever. Quicken is almost always going to be better, if number of spells per day isn't a problem - sure it's an extra turn attempt, but two flamestrikes is 70 damage, and you can spread them out if you want.</p><p></p><p>And anyone mentioning silent spell with this feat obviously plays in a vastly different campaign than I've ever played in. I've *never* known anyone to use silent spell *at all*... and to waste a feat on it and a feat on divine metamagic so you can do it on a whim? Feh. Go for it.</p><p></p><p>I'm actually creating a 6th level cleric who *already* has to take extra turning (going radiant servant of pelor), and I *still* don't want to take Divine Metamagic, because I don't want to have to spend two feats to do one useful thing. Instead of Divine Metamagic and a metamagic feat, I'll take augment healing and divine spell power. Divine spell power is a heck of a lot more efficient, is useful for a lot more spells, and only requires a single feat.</p><p></p><p>In case you can't tell.. we don't use a lot of metamagic in my campaigns.... I find that until you hit 13th+ level.... not much metamagic gets thrown around... and even at that level, it's usually just empower.</p><p></p><p>-The Souljourner</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 1619060, member: 1622"] Personally, I think it's much more broken with persistant spell than maximize (but that's the fault of persistant). Sure, it's 7 turn attempts, but it changes all those useful spells from a round or a min per level to all day. Maximize gives +25 points of damage on average to one spell, or 12 damage if they make their save. Big deal. And don't forget... that's 3 feats, all so you can maximize two spells per day for free? Whatever. Quicken is almost always going to be better, if number of spells per day isn't a problem - sure it's an extra turn attempt, but two flamestrikes is 70 damage, and you can spread them out if you want. And anyone mentioning silent spell with this feat obviously plays in a vastly different campaign than I've ever played in. I've *never* known anyone to use silent spell *at all*... and to waste a feat on it and a feat on divine metamagic so you can do it on a whim? Feh. Go for it. I'm actually creating a 6th level cleric who *already* has to take extra turning (going radiant servant of pelor), and I *still* don't want to take Divine Metamagic, because I don't want to have to spend two feats to do one useful thing. Instead of Divine Metamagic and a metamagic feat, I'll take augment healing and divine spell power. Divine spell power is a heck of a lot more efficient, is useful for a lot more spells, and only requires a single feat. In case you can't tell.. we don't use a lot of metamagic in my campaigns.... I find that until you hit 13th+ level.... not much metamagic gets thrown around... and even at that level, it's usually just empower. -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]
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