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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 8646265" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey there jboud045! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Q (Star Trek) - At least Demiurge, probably Time LordAncients/Ori (Stargate) - maybe Sidereals probablyThe Xeelee (Xeelee Sequence) - not familiar enough with theseCelestials (Marvel)- lots of conflicting showings but I always had them pegged around Old One rank (Sidereal tier)...Exitar and Tiamut are likely higher rank.Eternity (Marvel) - At least First One, possibly low DemiurgeLiving Tribunal (Marvel) - High LordOne-Above-All (Marvel) - Supreme Being though its notable that DC's equivalent (The Presence) technically is not their Supreme Being, although I think Grant Morrison maybe tried to be clever for its own sake when he goes all meta with continued reality on top of reality ad infinitum. Once you go past a certain point its just waffling to stroke your own ego. I understand the comics have a tendency for one-upmanship (which is fun) but infinite meta-verses are a waste of time IMO. Still the DCU is interesting if nothing else.In the new book I outline the ranks/challenge ratings for Alien Civilizations based on Kardashev scaling. So if you convert a race to the Kardashev scale its easy to equate it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 8646265, member: 326"] Hey there jboud045! :) Q (Star Trek) - At least Demiurge, probably Time Lord Ancients/Ori (Stargate) - maybe Sidereals probably The Xeelee (Xeelee Sequence) - not familiar enough with these Celestials (Marvel)- lots of conflicting showings but I always had them pegged around Old One rank (Sidereal tier)...Exitar and Tiamut are likely higher rank. Eternity (Marvel) - At least First One, possibly low Demiurge Living Tribunal (Marvel) - High Lord One-Above-All (Marvel) - Supreme Being though its notable that DC's equivalent (The Presence) technically is not their Supreme Being, although I think Grant Morrison maybe tried to be clever for its own sake when he goes all meta with continued reality on top of reality ad infinitum. Once you go past a certain point its just waffling to stroke your own ego. I understand the comics have a tendency for one-upmanship (which is fun) but infinite meta-verses are a waste of time IMO. Still the DCU is interesting if nothing else. In the new book I outline the ranks/challenge ratings for Alien Civilizations based on Kardashev scaling. So if you convert a race to the Kardashev scale its easy to equate it. [/QUOTE]

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