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Divine Spontaneous Caster (was: Divine Feat)
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<blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 1247716" data-attributes="member: 15538"><p>The problems with the Favored Soul:</p><p>- It's combat oriented.</p><p>- It has Monk saving throws and Fighter Weapon Specialization, which strike me as design no-nons for a base class</p><p>- lack of domain access = Favored Souls of Pelor without smite evil</p><p>- stupid winged dwarves</p><p></p><p>Problems with the Dragonlance Mystic:</p><p>- very few, from a mechanical standpoint, possibly underpowered compared to a Cleric</p><p>- some flavor problems: they don't "belong" to specific deities, and they have their own specialty domains, reflecting that they are casters of a different nature in Dragonlance than Clerics, and are basically the opposite of Favored Souls.</p><p></p><p>Favored Souls and Mystics are both stabs at spontaneous divine casters. One is a dedicated personification of their deity's will. The other is a god-less mystic. In between, a generic divine caster should reflect some connection to "the Source." Favored Soulds are Cha based, apart from Save DCs. Mystics are Wis casters, exactly like Clerics. Neither turns undead.</p><p></p><p>Being intuitive, it seems to me that spontaneous divine casters should rely on Wis. However, there is a strong argument for Cha, based on "force of will," as well as sorcerer-like Outsiders with clerical spells. You might make Wis the ability for maximum spell level, and use Cha for DCs and spells per day. However, I don't like the split. I'd prefer a unified ability, like other core classes. It seems like turning undead ought to be the province of at least some spontaneous divine casters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pawsplay, post: 1247716, member: 15538"] The problems with the Favored Soul: - It's combat oriented. - It has Monk saving throws and Fighter Weapon Specialization, which strike me as design no-nons for a base class - lack of domain access = Favored Souls of Pelor without smite evil - stupid winged dwarves Problems with the Dragonlance Mystic: - very few, from a mechanical standpoint, possibly underpowered compared to a Cleric - some flavor problems: they don't "belong" to specific deities, and they have their own specialty domains, reflecting that they are casters of a different nature in Dragonlance than Clerics, and are basically the opposite of Favored Souls. Favored Souls and Mystics are both stabs at spontaneous divine casters. One is a dedicated personification of their deity's will. The other is a god-less mystic. In between, a generic divine caster should reflect some connection to "the Source." Favored Soulds are Cha based, apart from Save DCs. Mystics are Wis casters, exactly like Clerics. Neither turns undead. Being intuitive, it seems to me that spontaneous divine casters should rely on Wis. However, there is a strong argument for Cha, based on "force of will," as well as sorcerer-like Outsiders with clerical spells. You might make Wis the ability for maximum spell level, and use Cha for DCs and spells per day. However, I don't like the split. I'd prefer a unified ability, like other core classes. It seems like turning undead ought to be the province of at least some spontaneous divine casters. [/QUOTE]
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