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<blockquote data-quote="Khaalis" data-source="post: 1443821" data-attributes="member: 2167"><p>Interesting that you say that. I dont see the difference between the clerical and arcane versions.</p><p></p><p>Do you realize that you can make a Cleric fit the Arcane Trickster as-is? Its just a bit of a chore but can be done.</p><p></p><p>Also the base Arcane Trickster can easily have arcane classes with Casting in Armor ability etc. as well: Bard, War Mage, and Battle Sorcerer off the top of my head. Also note that as has been pointed out to me repeatedly - "Arcane spells are more powerful than Divine spells".</p><p></p><p>Also where does the Cleric synergy with the Rogue? A cleric/rogue to be decent with anything other than the social skills has to give up their heavy armor, their BAB's are the same Not better as you stated, HP are an average of 1 extra HP per level (and the Trickster keeps the same premise as the original version and reduces HD to the lowest denominator - back to Rogue HD), and they suffer a huge loss in skill points. The cleric does not give the rogue better combat abilities. Even if the cleric were a "War" cleric with destruction and war domains - they still dont add as much prowess to a rogue as they take other things away from it.</p><p></p><p>Cleric does not normally synergy a Rogue, it is a detriment to a Rogue as a combination and thus why it is done so rarely. However, most worlds offer a deity of Thieves and this is a perfect template for them. If an arcane caster can do it, why can't a divine? Why is this more powerful than a Wizard/Rogue Arcane Trickster? Keep in mind that the Arcane version is much more deadly as they get MANY more spells than clerics do that can gain the addition of their Sneak Attack damage.</p><p></p><p>Which would you rather face? A Cleric/Rogue/Divine Trickster or a BattleSorcerer/Rogue/Arcane Trickster? I'd take the DT any day. They just dont have the 30' ranged spells that an Arcane caster has. A simple Scorching Ray from a 10th level Arcane Trickster does 11d6 Damage to up to 3 targets at once (or worse... 33d6 to one target). A Cleric cant ever come close to this kind of power.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khaalis, post: 1443821, member: 2167"] Interesting that you say that. I dont see the difference between the clerical and arcane versions. Do you realize that you can make a Cleric fit the Arcane Trickster as-is? Its just a bit of a chore but can be done. Also the base Arcane Trickster can easily have arcane classes with Casting in Armor ability etc. as well: Bard, War Mage, and Battle Sorcerer off the top of my head. Also note that as has been pointed out to me repeatedly - "Arcane spells are more powerful than Divine spells". Also where does the Cleric synergy with the Rogue? A cleric/rogue to be decent with anything other than the social skills has to give up their heavy armor, their BAB's are the same Not better as you stated, HP are an average of 1 extra HP per level (and the Trickster keeps the same premise as the original version and reduces HD to the lowest denominator - back to Rogue HD), and they suffer a huge loss in skill points. The cleric does not give the rogue better combat abilities. Even if the cleric were a "War" cleric with destruction and war domains - they still dont add as much prowess to a rogue as they take other things away from it. Cleric does not normally synergy a Rogue, it is a detriment to a Rogue as a combination and thus why it is done so rarely. However, most worlds offer a deity of Thieves and this is a perfect template for them. If an arcane caster can do it, why can't a divine? Why is this more powerful than a Wizard/Rogue Arcane Trickster? Keep in mind that the Arcane version is much more deadly as they get MANY more spells than clerics do that can gain the addition of their Sneak Attack damage. Which would you rather face? A Cleric/Rogue/Divine Trickster or a BattleSorcerer/Rogue/Arcane Trickster? I'd take the DT any day. They just dont have the 30' ranged spells that an Arcane caster has. A simple Scorching Ray from a 10th level Arcane Trickster does 11d6 Damage to up to 3 targets at once (or worse... 33d6 to one target). A Cleric cant ever come close to this kind of power. [/QUOTE]
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