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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 5597274" data-attributes="member: 6957">I am assuming a GM, not a player - Bestiary 1 & 2 Needed, Setting Not Quite Needed, Etc. Etc. Etc.The Player's Bundle does not add 'just a few choices' - the racial books are among their number. Not core, but also more than a few choices. *EDIT* Don't know what will happen after Advanced Races Guide comes out - much of the content may be subsumed into it. But ARG is just a glow on the horizon.The Authoring Kit I will admit was a misreading that I made, but it wasn't added to the final number anyway - the price is still $80 -$100 for a GM who wants everything that he might need. Still way too rich for my blood, especially compared to PCGen (free!). If I am going to be adding content by hand anyway the price of the bundles is canceled out, not removed. Doing it by hand is time added to both, and PCGen is still the better bargain.As a player, I would not bother with Hero Lab or PCGen at all - it is easy enough to generate one character, it is only when dozens of characters, or critters with class levels and/or templates are needed that I would want the computer at all. Otherwise, hand me the books and the dice and leave the computer on the desk. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />My advice - try PCGen first, then, if PCGen is not your cuppa, spend the $20 for the Core Pathfinder and maybe splurge for the APG. But you won't be able to use it for monsters in that event. Free for a more complete set is better than $20 for just the Core.PCGen <s>might be</s> is clunky, but it is also very powerful. And there is a lot of Pathfinder material already added.The Auld Grump*EDIT* If you are running a game online then Hero Lab makes a lot more sense - I am assuming GM running a game on a tabletop. For online it might be worth $80 - $100.</blockquote>

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