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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 4822421" data-attributes="member: 18701">You already have it better than a lot of groups with problem players. You have a social life with him outside of the game, so that's a good start. Talking about the game over some beers is a great way to break the ice & discuss issues. I would wait and talk to the problem player the next time you guys are hanging out at the bar. That way it'll feel less like you are "confronting" him, and you guys will have a few drinks in you and be loosened up <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" />But I would definitely say something to him. Yer going to have to just be up front, no beating around the bush. Just tell him that you are trying to learn how to be a good DM and his constant arguing is not helping. Instead, he should wait until after the game to "teach" you what rules you are using wrong. Make him feel like he will be helping you out by doing this. Hopefully things will work out.But, I will speak from my own experience now...Do not hesitate to kick someone out of the group. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown    :("  data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" />In the last 10 years I have DMed, I have DMed around 20 or more different people. About 8 of them left the game over gaming style conflicts (they didn't like how I DMed, or I didn't like them as a player and asked them to leave). The one thing I want to say is, do not let someone ruin your fun & cause you to stop DMing. Kick his butt out of the group if he cannot change his bad habits. Early on, when I was trying to become a good DM, I had people frustrate me so bad that I would consider giving up the DM role. But I had so much fun DMing during the good parts, that I wished so much that I had that "perfect" group so I could keep DMing. I tried everything I could to make it better, even posted here on Enworld many times to ask advice about problem players.In the end, after dealing with so many of these people, I learned that people just aren't going to change. Even when I talked to them about it, they'd be better for 1 or 2 sessions and then we'd be right back where we were. I have never heard of a group that was able to turn a problem player into a good player. If so, nobody has ever mentioned it <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious    :]" data-shortname=":]" />I told myself that I won't deal with any more BS. So I started looking for new players when they'd cause problems, and I would just stop inviting them to game. I also became very strict when meeting potential new players (posting ads online & meeting them at Starbucks). If any red flags went up during the meeting, I would tell them later that I don't think they'll work out. It was very hard to do at first because I feel bad telling them that, but I got used to it (every time I'd give them a chance anyway, they'd turn out to still be problem players).I now have a great group of friends to game with. We all get along and I have never had any of them argue during the game. None of them make me feel like a bad DM and they are just there to have a good time. It's great.I had to deal with a lot of crap to get to this point, but I can honestly say that I have no big problems with any of the players. I even got 2 new people in the game <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />I wish I could say that talking to problem players is the best advice, but I honestly don't think it is. Kicking these people out of the group and replacing them with great players is the best advice I think a person could give. That's just the way it is I guess (at least for me) <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></blockquote>

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