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DM Advice: handling 'he can't talk to me like that' ~cuts NPC throat~ players.
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<blockquote data-quote="Bardsandsages" data-source="post: 4137499" data-attributes="member: 28771"><p>Sounds like you have a case of players suffering from Chaotic Stupidity.</p><p></p><p>The Paladin should have been at a minimum spiritually slapped around by his god after the first fight. It isn't even about alignment. He's a paladin. You don't become a paladin without having some discipline, particularly military discipline. He of all people should have put a stop to the sorcerer tormenting the NPC that they were suppose to be working with. </p><p></p><p>Unless Vincent is a pedofile or something, there was zero reason for them to kill him. A man finds out he has a son that he didn't know he had, and wants his kid. End of story. The party should not have carte blanche to kill anyone just because they don't like the way the guy talks (which is what it appears they are doing.)</p><p></p><p>The fact that the town is AFRAID of the party...and again afraid of a paladin...is a bad sign. This isn't an alignment issue, its a bad players running amok because nobody can challenge them issue. </p><p></p><p>As far as handling the situation, I'd guilt the crap out of the party. Maybe have Vincent come to them as a ghost or something. Turns out Vincent has this gruff facade, but actually wanted to be a good father but the woman thought he wouldn't really care for the boy. The whole "if only they had talked to each other" tragic romance line. Maybe Vincent kept the relationship with the woman a secret because he feared the King would not approve of one of his arbitors having a personal life or something. But make Vincent more sympathetic so that the players realize they screwed up. </p><p></p><p>Considering that they have been getting away with this behavior without reprecussions to date, I don't know why they would avoid killing the messenger. Unless you have the guy traveling with his small son, and the little boy screaming "Please don't kill my daddy!" </p><p></p><p>Either you ignore it and let them run amok, or you have there be serious repricussions for what they have done.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bardsandsages, post: 4137499, member: 28771"] Sounds like you have a case of players suffering from Chaotic Stupidity. The Paladin should have been at a minimum spiritually slapped around by his god after the first fight. It isn't even about alignment. He's a paladin. You don't become a paladin without having some discipline, particularly military discipline. He of all people should have put a stop to the sorcerer tormenting the NPC that they were suppose to be working with. Unless Vincent is a pedofile or something, there was zero reason for them to kill him. A man finds out he has a son that he didn't know he had, and wants his kid. End of story. The party should not have carte blanche to kill anyone just because they don't like the way the guy talks (which is what it appears they are doing.) The fact that the town is AFRAID of the party...and again afraid of a paladin...is a bad sign. This isn't an alignment issue, its a bad players running amok because nobody can challenge them issue. As far as handling the situation, I'd guilt the crap out of the party. Maybe have Vincent come to them as a ghost or something. Turns out Vincent has this gruff facade, but actually wanted to be a good father but the woman thought he wouldn't really care for the boy. The whole "if only they had talked to each other" tragic romance line. Maybe Vincent kept the relationship with the woman a secret because he feared the King would not approve of one of his arbitors having a personal life or something. But make Vincent more sympathetic so that the players realize they screwed up. Considering that they have been getting away with this behavior without reprecussions to date, I don't know why they would avoid killing the messenger. Unless you have the guy traveling with his small son, and the little boy screaming "Please don't kill my daddy!" Either you ignore it and let them run amok, or you have there be serious repricussions for what they have done. [/QUOTE]
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