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<blockquote data-quote="Ralts Bloodthorne" data-source="post: 4140882" data-attributes="member: 6390"><p>OK, first thing first, the OP has admitting he is not strict with alignments (first sentence of his post) but let's take a look at a few things:</p><p></p><p>Now, the first fight could have been blown off/ignored due to whatever reasons. The PC's were too important/powerful to worry about a couple of mooks, so we'll just ignore it. All it does is show that the PC's would rather die than back down. So, let's get it on.</p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, we're dealing with more than a knight, we are dealing with an extension of the King's will, the force of the crown.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Thus, it is law, merely because his word is law, his words are the King's words. Uh-oh...</p><p></p><p></p><p>OK, while an evil "gray area" due to the fact that they are preventing the last wishes of the mother from being negated, this was not a lawful action. It may or may not have been good, depending on what kind of motives Vincent had.</p><p></p><p>But, an argument could be made that once Vincent found out, the mother's request was broken.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Evil, maybe.</p><p>Unlawful: Absolutely.</p><p></p><p>That spells trouble for the Paladin.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If they kill this peasant, then they are doing so to cover what happened, making the murder of the peasant AND the murder of Vincent into an evil act. (They obviously knew it was wrong, which is why they are trying to cover up their misdeeds)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Let them make their own bed. If they kill the peasant, strip the paladin of his paladin powers (maybe secretly replace them with Blackguard powers slowly but surely) and maybe have the cleric lose access to some of his spells, or his healing not work on the party and himself, as a sign of disfavor from his God.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anything they do, besides try to persuade the peasant with non-threatening words, will be covering up their crime, and even persuasion is covering up their crime.</p><p></p><p>From the picture you've painted us, they'll just kill him. Once they do that, they may recieve their reward, but they'll be raubitters and black knights. Lead them into evil, and have Hades open the door and guide the way.</p><p></p><p>If done right, this could lead into an evil coup against the king.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ralts Bloodthorne, post: 4140882, member: 6390"] OK, first thing first, the OP has admitting he is not strict with alignments (first sentence of his post) but let's take a look at a few things: Now, the first fight could have been blown off/ignored due to whatever reasons. The PC's were too important/powerful to worry about a couple of mooks, so we'll just ignore it. All it does is show that the PC's would rather die than back down. So, let's get it on. OK, we're dealing with more than a knight, we are dealing with an extension of the King's will, the force of the crown. Thus, it is law, merely because his word is law, his words are the King's words. Uh-oh... OK, while an evil "gray area" due to the fact that they are preventing the last wishes of the mother from being negated, this was not a lawful action. It may or may not have been good, depending on what kind of motives Vincent had. But, an argument could be made that once Vincent found out, the mother's request was broken. Evil, maybe. Unlawful: Absolutely. That spells trouble for the Paladin. If they kill this peasant, then they are doing so to cover what happened, making the murder of the peasant AND the murder of Vincent into an evil act. (They obviously knew it was wrong, which is why they are trying to cover up their misdeeds) Let them make their own bed. If they kill the peasant, strip the paladin of his paladin powers (maybe secretly replace them with Blackguard powers slowly but surely) and maybe have the cleric lose access to some of his spells, or his healing not work on the party and himself, as a sign of disfavor from his God. Anything they do, besides try to persuade the peasant with non-threatening words, will be covering up their crime, and even persuasion is covering up their crime. From the picture you've painted us, they'll just kill him. Once they do that, they may recieve their reward, but they'll be raubitters and black knights. Lead them into evil, and have Hades open the door and guide the way. If done right, this could lead into an evil coup against the king. [/QUOTE]
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