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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenes" data-source="post: 4142020" data-attributes="member: 604">Or the king could simply decide "Whoa, I didn't know Vincent was as stupid and inept as to get himself killed by acting arrogantly and rudely with the wrong sort of people. Good thing he died before I sent him to the neighboring realm, or he might've started a war".I mean, if we're talking logic and consequences: We have here an arbiter that was simply too stupid to handle PCs. At best he'd have made them mad, possibly causing them to leave the country. At worst, he might have provoked them into launching an attack on the crown. And what for? So he would not have to invent or state a reason to get the kid? Sheer lazyness, in other words? How on earth did he ever get his position? He seems inept at politics.Good or evil aside, his actions were stupid, suicidal and dangerous to his king. You simply do not treat PCs of a certain level that way unless you somehow managed to be ignorant or ignore their personal power. I find the idea that it's realistic for anyone to try to bully people who can level a kingdom if they put their mind ot it a tad odd. Again, there's a double standard: PCs are expected to act smart, and not tweak the dragon's nose, or provoke the neighbor's king and army, by acting arrogantly, but NPCs are expected to be able to do that? Or do PCs get to ignore dilpomacy and bluff and sense motive, as long as the are in the right, without any consequences either?Let's play NPCs as having more than two braincells, and an intellect able to understand that just because they are in the right by law doesn't mean they should push the tank bataillon into rebellion just because they don't want to use diplomacy or bluff.How many DMs acknowledge the power that PCs wield? How many DMs let NPCs react to that power in a consistent way, and how many simply try to have NPCS bully PCs around no matter the PCs' level?Good or evil is one question, but maybe there's a need to look objectively at what Vincent did: Acting rashly and rudely, and arrogantly towards a force that is, going from standard D&D world truism, able to wreck his kingdom.</blockquote>

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