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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fenes" data-source="post: 4164864" data-attributes="member: 604">I think a few of the responses were from the "the good guys have to win" school of DMing, where consequences are not simulationist, but actually railroading for the desired result (punishment for killing the arbiter).The people who advocate the "send in 2xparty level NPC adventurers" response need to consider the ramifications of this - if that's the usual consequence in the campaign, why have the adventurers been fighting CR-appropriate foes, and were not sent to battle foes half their level as well? If that's not the usual response, why does it happen now, and not back 2 levels when the adventurers were hard pressed to get help against overwhelming numbers of orcs attacking the kingdom?Simulationism is all nice and well, but you have to consider that whenever you bring in those killer NPCs to squash evil PCs, the Players are allowed to ask where those NPCs were when it was just the PCs and the demon horde.So, if you go the simulation route, and all "consequences!", be fair. Set the ressources of the kingdom beforehand, and use them logically all the time, not just when the PCs come up against the kingdom.You may very well discover that a kingdowm that has the resosurces to squash a mid-level PC party like bugs has a limited number of adventuring opportunities for low-level and mid-level PCs.And of course, in a simulated world, treat the PCs like NPCs. If the nobles of a realm can get away with a crime, then so should the PCs, if they are powerful enough. So, in order to use the "Now suffer the consequences" approach, make sure you allow the PCs to bring the same amount of wrath down on their foes ("Ok... back when we had proof of the Duke killing his wife, why didn't he get smacked down with those ultra-NPCs? You said the duke was too powerful to be toppled over his wife's death, but if the king has these killers on call, how could that be? And if the duke has similar people on call, why are we still alive after investigating his wife's death?")</blockquote>

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