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Message: <blockquote data-quote="haakon1" data-source="post: 4166735" data-attributes="member: 25619">Nod, 12th level is about right on where the divide is.  For me, it becomes unplayable somewhere slightly north of there -- it's a supers game and it's too complicated to be any fun.  For others, I guess it BECOMES playable at those levels.This doesn't follow.  If the PC's are dark-suit Spider-man, who's to say there's not a Batman or even a Superman at the King's disposal to take care of such problems?  Can't the king light the bat bonfire in such an emergency.The "PC's can do whatever they want" school seems to think PC's automatically have the overwhelming majority of non-demonic power in a campaign.  That doesn't make ring true to me -- a larger and larger share of power, but not all of it.  "There's always a bigger fish" makes more sense to me.  And the power of a crowd makes sense too.In our world, multi-billionaire Wall Street wizards like Warren Buffet and George Soros wield incredible amounts of money and power.  Soros helped influence the transition of post-Communist countries like Hungary, and he once "broke the pound" from its exchange rate mechanism and helped bring down a British Prime Minister, it's true, but if he murdered a cop or a government official, the UK/EU/Hungary would not fear to go after him because he might cause a run on the pound or euro or florint!Me neither, but Contingency has never been a popular spell with the folks I game with.  <shrug>  We're rarely high enough level to get 6th level spells.Nod, very true.  It's not hard to think of ways to kill other than reducing HP.</blockquote>

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