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<blockquote data-quote="JiffyPopTart" data-source="post: 8166751" data-attributes="member: 4881">The &quot;levitate causes ground pressure&quot; surprise rule was announced after we had send the fighter bobsledding down the hallway of traps resulting in his death not before we sent him.I do agree with you that, as a GM, sometimes an &quot;adventure&quot; the players pursue can be left hanging in an unfinished state....or even failed.&nbsp; In the situation I am describing the GM was running a one-off adventure, so any off-the-beaten-path choices would have been going out of bounds of the story the GM had to tell.&nbsp; In a campaign we wouldn't have quit just because one character died (even if we all though he was killed unfairly) because a campaign is about a longer term story than any single location.Edit:&nbsp; In that particular group (this was my High School gaming buddies) several of us had a particular &quot;system&quot; we would run campaigns in.&nbsp; We had D&amp;D, Star Wars, Torg, Shadowrun, Marvel Superheros, James Bond, and Chill campaigns running concurrently.&nbsp; In this particular case the James Bond GM wanted to run a one-off D&amp;D adventure.&nbsp; All that &quot;leaving the game&quot; meant would have been we just started playing some other game with the same group, the decision to ditch was for that adventure only.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="JiffyPopTart, post: 8166751, member: 4881"] The "levitate causes ground pressure" surprise rule was announced after we had send the fighter bobsledding down the hallway of traps resulting in his death not before we sent him. I do agree with you that, as a GM, sometimes an "adventure" the players pursue can be left hanging in an unfinished state....or even failed. In the situation I am describing the GM was running a one-off adventure, so any off-the-beaten-path choices would have been going out of bounds of the story the GM had to tell. In a campaign we wouldn't have quit just because one character died (even if we all though he was killed unfairly) because a campaign is about a longer term story than any single location. Edit: In that particular group (this was my High School gaming buddies) several of us had a particular "system" we would run campaigns in. We had D&D, Star Wars, Torg, Shadowrun, Marvel Superheros, James Bond, and Chill campaigns running concurrently. In this particular case the James Bond GM wanted to run a one-off D&D adventure. All that "leaving the game" meant would have been we just started playing some other game with the same group, the decision to ditch was for that adventure only. [/QUOTE]

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