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<blockquote data-quote="Urbanmech" data-source="post: 1845147" data-attributes="member: 122">I am a shapechange/wild shape/polymorph junkie so take what I say with a grain of salt.&nbsp; I think shapechange is fine for a 9th lv spell.&nbsp; There are pleanty of ways to ruin a shapechanged sorcerers day.Sure the pit fiend is attractive, but wait till you are hit with multiple touch attack spells.&nbsp; Sure you are immune to fire and resistant to a lot of energy attacks but that doesn't stop you from still hurting from CR 20 dragon's breath weapons.&nbsp; Spells may have a hard time effecting the character but look to supernatural abilities to ruin his day.&nbsp; All of a beholders eye rays are SU and so is it's antimagic field.&nbsp; Bye bye magic, all the beholder needs is a few Cloud or Storm giant allies to squish the mage.If you are running Bastion of Broken Souls then you probably alreay have to do a good amount of changing to convert it to 3.5.&nbsp; I remember the positive material plane critters as being rather nasty with some touch attack powers.&nbsp; I think they will give the sorcerer (and the party) a hard time.&nbsp; Good luck and embrace your parties high level abilities (and remember what is good for the pc's is sometimes better for the NPC's).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Urbanmech, post: 1845147, member: 122"] I am a shapechange/wild shape/polymorph junkie so take what I say with a grain of salt. I think shapechange is fine for a 9th lv spell. There are pleanty of ways to ruin a shapechanged sorcerers day. Sure the pit fiend is attractive, but wait till you are hit with multiple touch attack spells. Sure you are immune to fire and resistant to a lot of energy attacks but that doesn't stop you from still hurting from CR 20 dragon's breath weapons. Spells may have a hard time effecting the character but look to supernatural abilities to ruin his day. All of a beholders eye rays are SU and so is it's antimagic field. Bye bye magic, all the beholder needs is a few Cloud or Storm giant allies to squish the mage. If you are running Bastion of Broken Souls then you probably alreay have to do a good amount of changing to convert it to 3.5. I remember the positive material plane critters as being rather nasty with some touch attack powers. I think they will give the sorcerer (and the party) a hard time. Good luck and embrace your parties high level abilities (and remember what is good for the pc's is sometimes better for the NPC's). [/QUOTE]

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