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<blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1852058" data-attributes="member: 151">Personally, I don't much care for Bastion of Broken Souls.&nbsp; We abandoned it after the second or third session.&nbsp; It just didn't play terribly well, and was the worst kind of railroading, IMHO.&nbsp; Now, Lich Queen's Beloved, from Dungeon #100...now THERE was a module for high-level hijinks. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;&nbsp;Personal recommendation: you've reached high-level.&nbsp; You may lean you chairs back and teleport about the campaign world.&nbsp; The DM reminds you that there is no smoking on the Elemental Plane of Water.&nbsp; You've reached 9th-level spells and +10 enchantment weapons.&nbsp; Time to let the players cut loose.&nbsp; IMC, the wizard regularly shape-changed into a Solar (until it got him into trouble with the real things).&nbsp; It didn't change much, other than grant him more mobility.&nbsp; His SLAs generally work out to be weaker than his actual spells.&nbsp; That pit fiend is mighty, tis true...but so is a maximized empowered sonic fireball with greater spell focus and greater spell penetration tacked on.&nbsp; Seen any Miracles cast lately?&nbsp; How about Gate?&nbsp; Seen what a 19th level fighter can dish out, if he enters melee?&nbsp;&nbsp;BBOS problem, IMHO, is that it starts out by nerfing most of the PCs information gathering abilities, saddles the party with an obvious turncoat NPC who is supposed to rescue the party (bad, bad bad!) and join them, lots of railroading and fights that are unavoidable, and so forth.&nbsp; What's that?&nbsp; The Paladin wants to reason with [spoiler]the celestials guarding the quarantined god?[/spoiler]&nbsp; Sorry about that, you can't.&nbsp; Combat's the only solution.&nbsp; What's that?&nbsp; The Bard wants to [spoiler]try and reason with the God of Arts and his lilend followers?[/spoiler]&nbsp; Sorry about that, you can't.&nbsp; Combat's the only way to get what you want.&nbsp; What's that?&nbsp; Your cleric wants to [spoiler]try and use divination, wish and miracle spells to get answers about the mysterious attacker, Dydd and the reason all of the souls are being destroyed forever?[/spoiler]&nbsp; Sorry about that, but you couldn't force the players into a series of three successive, mostly meaningless combats, otherwise.&nbsp; And on and on.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;I would worry less about the combat aspects of Shapechange, and more about how frustrating a module BBOS actually is.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="WizarDru, post: 1852058, member: 151"] Personally, I don't much care for [i]Bastion of Broken Souls[/i]. We abandoned it after the second or third session. It just didn't play terribly well, and was the worst kind of railroading, IMHO. Now, [i]Lich Queen's Beloved[/i], from Dungeon #100...now THERE was a module for high-level hijinks. :) Personal recommendation: you've reached high-level. You may lean you chairs back and teleport about the campaign world. The DM reminds you that there is no smoking on the Elemental Plane of Water. You've reached 9th-level spells and +10 enchantment weapons. Time to let the players cut loose. IMC, the wizard regularly shape-changed into a Solar (until it got him into trouble with the real things). It didn't change much, other than grant him more mobility. His SLAs generally work out to be weaker than his actual spells. That pit fiend is mighty, tis true...but so is a [i]maximized empowered sonic fireball with greater spell focus and greater spell penetration[/i] tacked on. Seen any Miracles cast lately? How about Gate? Seen what a 19th level fighter can dish out, if he enters melee? BBOS problem, IMHO, is that it starts out by nerfing most of the PCs information gathering abilities, saddles the party with an obvious turncoat NPC who is supposed to rescue the party (bad, bad bad!) and join them, lots of railroading and fights that are unavoidable, and so forth. What's that? The Paladin wants to reason with [spoiler]the celestials guarding the quarantined god?[/spoiler] Sorry about that, you can't. Combat's the only solution. What's that? The Bard wants to [spoiler]try and reason with the God of Arts and his lilend followers?[/spoiler] Sorry about that, you can't. Combat's the only way to get what you want. What's that? Your cleric wants to [spoiler]try and use divination, wish and miracle spells to get answers about the mysterious attacker, Dydd and the reason all of the souls are being destroyed forever?[/spoiler] Sorry about that, but you couldn't force the players into a series of three successive, mostly meaningless combats, otherwise. And on and on. I would worry less about the combat aspects of Shapechange, and more about how frustrating a module BBOS actually is. [/QUOTE]

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