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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nimble Goodbarrel" data-source="post: 5000803" data-attributes="member: 82770">Totally agree and I do this.  However I haven't used this outside of a skill challenge and I should.I agree with this aswell.  The problem is that they don't solve the problem in character and act as their characters would.  If they did then I would have no problem with it at all.  Instead I feel like I could bring a crossword to the table and have as much fun.I had this conversation with my oldest friend at the table.  For arguments sake we will call him Andrew.  I told him that I felt that he played much better when we first started playing (about 15 years ago), because he took control of the action.  Andrew said that he felt his character is more of a tactician and focuses on combat.  (I equate this with playing the silent ranger who sits at the back and keeps to himself).  He said that he was honourable and that his character wouldn't cause trouble.  I asked "Why do you have to cause trouble to take control?"  He didn't have an answer.I knew this was coming and I thought that I would cross that Troll invested bridge when I came to it.I think that role playing in D&D terms means to act or play a character which may have elements of yourself included but is generally different than yourself and would act in a different manner than you would in a given situation.I once had a player who said that he was going to role play his character as himself.  His character was going to act as HE would act in those situations.  I don't think this is role playing and we don't game with him anymore.Wonderful idea I think I am going to use this.  Thanks.I actually asked for back stories for their characters.  No one has given me one yet.  I have asked for it a couple of times and explained my reasoning for it.  I feel that they are just not that into it.Done.We do use the battlegrid however I try to use it only for big encounters.  Maybe three per session.Done as well.  Acutally I love doing this, however for the reasons stated above I rarely get a fish to bite.This would be a dangerous thing for my group.  On occassion there is some real life situations like this at the table.I actually have tried to do this with everyone at the table not just who I think is the best.  I try at least once a session to give everyone the chance to shine and be tin the spot light.  Maybe I do have to focus on one player instead and keep at them until the others follow.Again that you everyone for your responses, some really good ideas and I appreciate your help.</blockquote>

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