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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Sunseeker" data-source="post: 6850250">So?  Wall of stone also mentions it's non-magical stone, so I think the "can't be dispelled" part is redundant.  You didn't CREATE matter, you reshaped it.  Polymorph is the same.  You reshaped existing matter.  Besides, I wasn't making the comparison to Wall of Stone as part of my argument.  I think Wall of Stone's reasons for not being able to be dispelled are pretty strong without it saying it can't be dispelled.Sure, but I can't think of any other spells which specifically call themselves out as not being able to be dispelled.  Wall of Stone's may be there for clarification against the other Walls, or it could be an artifact from an earlier writing.  I think the book is entirely unclear on what instantaneous means.  Is it a spell that takes only a moment to cast?  Is it a spell that lasts only a moment?  That takes effect in only a moment?  True Polymorph is cast instantaneously (one action), takes effect instantaneously, but lasts for up to one hour with concentration and is permanent beyond that.The way I read it, and the way I rule it, without outside errata is that the "magical effect" ends once concentration is up, ie: you are now 100% whatever you turned into and whatever you were is gone for good.  Up until that point (the one hour of concentration) you are still you with a magical costume.  The strength of the "book ruling" is that keeping it a "permanent magical effect" beyond the hour lets you keep the HP barrier, and your original self.  The strength of the alternate interpretation is that you risk losing all your class features (or they risk losing all of theirs) after the hour is up.  So after an hour the mouse remains a mouse forever.  Personally, I like my ruling.  Each have their own strengths.If the RAI was that it remains a permanent magical effect, instead of simply a permanent transformation, I get that, but I think that's less fun.  Dispel Magic is kinda boring IME.I think, as I write above, that the difference is based on what is becoming permanent?The cause?  ie: the magical effect.The result?  Ie: the transformation.If it's the former, I agree it should be able to be dispelled.  If it's the latter, I don't think it should be.</blockquote>

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