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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3657197" data-attributes="member: 22779">Umm, recent years?&nbsp; Like this is something new.&nbsp; You do realize that the Keep on the Borderlands contains no names for any NPC's?&nbsp; The Keep isn't even named, nor is the land in which it rests.&nbsp; The idea that gamist play is something new or that players have suddenly become less interested in setting porn recently is ridiculous.So, you want to go back to playing the way it was back in the day?&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />However, that's a bit beyond what I was stating.&nbsp; I'm sorry if you misunderstood my point, perhaps I explained it badly.&nbsp; I never stated that no setting is needed.&nbsp; I stated that setting and background elements have to be made relavent if you want the players to care about them.How about all the DM entitlement being chucked around here?&nbsp;&nbsp; It's a very bad thing that the players snore through DM's exposition, but, I'm supposed to be grateful for the DM gracing me with a couple of pages of background exposition?&nbsp; Gimme a break.&nbsp; There has to be a compromise on both sides here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3657197, member: 22779"] Umm, recent years? Like this is something new. You do realize that the Keep on the Borderlands contains no names for any NPC's? The Keep isn't even named, nor is the land in which it rests. The idea that gamist play is something new or that players have suddenly become less interested in setting porn recently is ridiculous. So, you want to go back to playing the way it was back in the day? :) However, that's a bit beyond what I was stating. I'm sorry if you misunderstood my point, perhaps I explained it badly. I never stated that no setting is needed. I stated that setting and background elements have to be made relavent if you want the players to care about them. How about all the DM entitlement being chucked around here? It's a very bad thing that the players snore through DM's exposition, but, I'm supposed to be grateful for the DM gracing me with a couple of pages of background exposition? Gimme a break. There has to be a compromise on both sides here. [/QUOTE]

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