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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RandomPrecision" data-source="post: 2116737" data-attributes="member: 29267">That sounds like the DM wasting his own prep time, if he didn't tell the players to make characters relevant to the campaign, and then refused to allow them to make relevant characters. It's also a waste of the players' time. It sounds like the DM was simply abusing the players by giving a fighting party a purely politcal adventure - the players simply turned it around by proving that politicians don't have d12 hit dice.And usually, when our DMs do something like that, they don't let us retaliate that much, but otherwise, those are things that we try to do.Something that happened to us - I believe we were supposed to help some elves.  Unfortunately, we're not exactly good-aligned, and we couldn't care less about elves.  After meeting with an important elf, the plan was originally that each member of the party would carry a part of the elf emissary to the river, where we'd dump his parts.  However, other elves noticed, and I think we had to kill and run.  Our actions eventually resulted in a war between humans and elves.</blockquote>