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<blockquote data-quote="Klaudius Rex" data-source="post: 6937899" data-attributes="member: 6807408">So, i know that rogues are the best at hiding, moving in slowly, hitting with a nasty Sneak Attack, and then, hiding as a bonus action to avoid getting hit themselves. It's their thing. I get it.However, it doesn't seem that any of the monsters presented in the MM or elsewhere really have a good enough Perception skill to find my rogue player. I am DMing &quot;Out of the Abyss&quot;, and at this point, they are levels 11 going on 12, so i expect them to be top notch characters, but this has been going on for a while now....Most monsters just dont have the Perception to find the rogue when he hides. Worse, some monsters dont even have the Perception skill and must use thier weak Wisdom scores (at best a +3 or +4) to even try. I've tried things like giving my rogue disadvantage while hiding in watery puddled places...I've also had the monster go look around for the rogue at the spot where he last was seen, forcing my rogue to re-roll on his hide check.....but rogues are just too damn good at it! Especially, when sneaking around in the Underdark. I just dont know what to do at this point.I want to hit my damn rogue so bad, but he's always hiding! And its like every round because he can do this as a bonus action with Cunning Action (granted at 2nd level!)Any suggestions?Anyone else have this problem?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Klaudius Rex, post: 6937899, member: 6807408"] So, i know that rogues are the best at hiding, moving in slowly, hitting with a nasty Sneak Attack, and then, hiding as a bonus action to avoid getting hit themselves. It's their thing. I get it. However, it doesn't seem that any of the monsters presented in the MM or elsewhere really have a good enough Perception skill to find my rogue player. I am DMing "Out of the Abyss", and at this point, they are levels 11 going on 12, so i expect them to be top notch characters, but this has been going on for a while now.... Most monsters just dont have the Perception to find the rogue when he hides. Worse, some monsters dont even have the Perception skill and must use thier weak Wisdom scores (at best a +3 or +4) to even try. I've tried things like giving my rogue disadvantage while hiding in watery puddled places... I've also had the monster go look around for the rogue at the spot where he last was seen, forcing my rogue to re-roll on his hide check... ..but rogues are just too damn good at it! Especially, when sneaking around in the Underdark. I just dont know what to do at this point. I want to hit my damn rogue so bad, but he's always hiding! And its like every round because he can do this as a bonus action with Cunning Action (granted at 2nd level!) Any suggestions? Anyone else have this problem? [/QUOTE]

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