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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6945764" data-attributes="member: 6788736">It is RAW. Its an interpretation of RAW applying common sense.Exactly. If I see you [move] behind a pillar you cant attempt to hide [Hide action] once you get there, despite the fact I can no longer see you.You're artificially parsing the movement and actions of a players turn (and a turn and a round is itself an artificial parsing of consecutive action).If there are several pillars in a room, and I turn my back to you, you can use your movement to move behind one and attempt the Hide action (attempt to hide). If I am watching you, you cant. I mean you can move behind a pillar and gain total cover, but you cant hide from me once you're there (barring outliers like the ability to teleport elsewhere from behind total cover on your turn so I didn't actually see you go into hiding).It is by omission. The rules dont state 'you must be unseen to attempt the Hide action'. They state that creatures are generally alert to creatures around them in combat, and you cant attempt to hide from a creature that is alert to you.This isn't garbled rules language. Its just common sense plain English language.Its like Hide and Seek. The 'seeker' closes his eyes for a reason. If he kept them open and watched you crawl under a bed and 'hide' you are not actually hidden.If OTOH you did so while his eyes were closed, you are actually hidden.Its not a houserule. Its a common sense interpretation of the RAW and the guidelines for hiding.In any event, 'Your DM determines when you can attempt to Hide' is expressly RAW as of the second printing onwards, so 'Ask your DM' is the RAW.</blockquote>

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