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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fjw70" data-source="post: 6945832" data-attributes="member: 80924">Flamestrike you are confusing someone thinking they know where you are and not being hidden. If I see a creature move behind a pillar and they take the hide action then I no longer perceive them.  That creature could have hid or could have teleported away. I don't know for sure. If the creature just moves behind the pillar without hiding then I could still perceive them. I could possibly hear them or see some dust that they kick up.i think the reason this happens is because DMs house rule to allow someone to reveal themselves (I.e. Lean around the pillar in this case) and still get the hidden bonus of advantage. If you take away that house rule then the rules make more sense.Lets look at another example. If a creature moves into a shadowy area and I see them move into that area then they can still try to hide.  Once hidden I don't know if they're stayed in the same space they hid in or moved to another shadowy space (I am using shadowy to mean completely cloak in darkness).</blockquote>