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DM Help! My rogue always spams Hide as a bonus action, and i cant target him!
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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6946310" data-attributes="member: 6788736"><p>I'd probably make you wait a round (so you started your turn in the darkness) in most circumstances yeah. Standing in a 100' diameter area of total darkness is approaching the level of imprecision of location conferred by <em>invisibility </em>(which effectively places you in an infinite radius of 'heavy obscurement'). </p><p></p><p>Remember, action is simultaneous despite the stop start nature of a cyclical turn based round structure. The Rogue I'm fighting hasn't suddenly broken off combat, turned and moved 30' into the shadows while I sit there and watch, then on my turn I follow him up with a similar move; the reality is that he turns and I immediately pursue, breathing down his neck and swinging my sword at him the whole time.</p><p></p><p>It'd be similar if a Rogue ran out of the room and around a bend in a corridor. After a round, if no-one followed him up, I'd allow him to attempt to Hide the following round.</p><p></p><p>I might also allow a Rogue to hide in the exact same spot from time to time, even after making an attack. In a particularly chaotic battle, its perfectly fine for a Rogue to pop out of hiding, fire his crossbow at an Ogre standing 60' away and engaged in a swirling melee with half a dozen warriors and duck back down and attempt to Hide again despite the general rule that once you attack you reveal yourself.</p><p></p><p>Its not a question of absolutes. Its a common sense ruling of 'does the creature you are trying to hide from know your position with sufficient precision'. Its ultimately a DM call, just using a bit of common sense and applying it to the situation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 6946310, member: 6788736"] I'd probably make you wait a round (so you started your turn in the darkness) in most circumstances yeah. Standing in a 100' diameter area of total darkness is approaching the level of imprecision of location conferred by [I]invisibility [/I](which effectively places you in an infinite radius of 'heavy obscurement'). Remember, action is simultaneous despite the stop start nature of a cyclical turn based round structure. The Rogue I'm fighting hasn't suddenly broken off combat, turned and moved 30' into the shadows while I sit there and watch, then on my turn I follow him up with a similar move; the reality is that he turns and I immediately pursue, breathing down his neck and swinging my sword at him the whole time. It'd be similar if a Rogue ran out of the room and around a bend in a corridor. After a round, if no-one followed him up, I'd allow him to attempt to Hide the following round. I might also allow a Rogue to hide in the exact same spot from time to time, even after making an attack. In a particularly chaotic battle, its perfectly fine for a Rogue to pop out of hiding, fire his crossbow at an Ogre standing 60' away and engaged in a swirling melee with half a dozen warriors and duck back down and attempt to Hide again despite the general rule that once you attack you reveal yourself. Its not a question of absolutes. Its a common sense ruling of 'does the creature you are trying to hide from know your position with sufficient precision'. Its ultimately a DM call, just using a bit of common sense and applying it to the situation. [/QUOTE]
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