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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plaguescarred" data-source="post: 6950728" data-attributes="member: 6701422">No you wouldn't see me hide, you would see me close the lid and become heavily obscured or unseen. I am not hidden yet as i have not taken the Hide action. But i'm eligible to try to hide now, not being seen clearly anymore. Hiding is not tied to moving out of view at all it's a seperate distinct action.Yes a 10 square of darkess can let you hide since creatures can't see you clearly anymore while obscured by it (unless they can see in it somehow). Again wether the creature moves or not afterward is irrevelant, if it's totally obscured, it can try to hide, this wether in darkness, invisible, unseen by other circumstances i.e blinded.I assume you'd ask a creature that become invisible to move before it can try to hide as well? Or after a creature become blinded?You're adding a requirement that doesn't exist by insisting that someone being seen moved out of view cannot hide. If you're not seen clearly and don't make noise you can try to hide, wether it's right after turning a corner or going into a box, this even if you were seen doing so.Being seen becoming heavily obscured or unseen is not a factor preventing to hide, the latter is even a requirement to even try so.</blockquote>