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<blockquote data-quote="Flamestrike" data-source="post: 6961352" data-attributes="member: 6788736">They need to go to university and do a course on postmodernism and learn why this isnt true then. They can scream [Text] means [X] and only [X] all they want, but they're self evidently wrong. You know it and I know it, and that makes it so. That doesnt mean their interpretaion of the text is any less valid than ours (or vice versa). But it does mean that youre wasting your time trying to persuade them otherwise, and are more likely than not just gonna travel around in circles saying the same things over and over again. Hence why I weighed out of the conversation. It's ultimately up to the individual DM to decide how he or she interprets the hiding rules. Maybe gamist 'mashing the hide button' is your thing. Maybe a more common sense interpretation is up your alley. The rules support both interpretations (and variations thereof). My advice was simply directed at the OP, who is using 'gamist interpretation'. He might be better served using the latter interpretation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Flamestrike, post: 6961352, member: 6788736"] They need to go to university and do a course on postmodernism and learn why this isnt true then. They can scream [Text] means [X] and only [X] all they want, but they're self evidently wrong. You know it and I know it, and that makes it so. That doesnt mean their interpretaion of the text is any less valid than ours (or vice versa). But it does mean that youre wasting your time trying to persuade them otherwise, and are more likely than not just gonna travel around in circles saying the same things over and over again. Hence why I weighed out of the conversation. It's ultimately up to the individual DM to decide how he or she interprets the hiding rules. Maybe gamist 'mashing the hide button' is your thing. Maybe a more common sense interpretation is up your alley. The rules support both interpretations (and variations thereof). My advice was simply directed at the OP, who is using 'gamist interpretation'. He might be better served using the latter interpretation. [/QUOTE]

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