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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plaguescarred" data-source="post: 6977050" data-attributes="member: 6701422">I agree except for the last part is confusing. The only rule reference about distraction is not to try to hide when seen, but to keep the benefit of being hidden for the attack when coming out in view. A DM deciding that someone can try to hide while seen because the observer is distracted i would rather say it can hide because he is instead not seen by the distracted observer. The point of contention argued by others was that an halfling and elf can't hide when seen by an undistracted observer, that it needed to be distracted and not seen. These abilities specifically allow them to try to hide when others wouldn't be able to it's the whole point.   I agree but those mitigating factors are things that would allow anyone to hide under these circumstances. What's debated is when these mitigating factors aren't present. Then only the halflign can hide behind a creature. In the rules no one else can use the obscurement from a creature to do so.No, a Skulker feat user can also specifically hide when lightly obscured.No the redundancy is allowing everyone to try to hide when lightly obscured when only certain feat or features actually allow it. The addition of the word ''clearly'' gives more leeway in DM to determine circumstances into which spmeone could try to hide. But it's clear both in the rules and Sage Advice that simply being lightly obscured is not something anyone can try to hide with, as its some core abitilies of feat or features. As a DM i personally rule that a lightly obscured creature is seen clearly enought to not be able to try to hide, unless it has a special ability to do so. This lines up with rules, feat, features and Sage Advice and tweets from R&D. I can always bring up extraordinary circumstances where someone lightly obscured or even not obscured at all could potentially try to hide because the observers are heavily distracted, in trance, drugged or otherwise having influenced senses but these would be exceptions, not something i'd normally rule on.</blockquote>

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