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DM Help! My rogue always spams Hide as a bonus action, and i cant target him!
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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 6983768" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>First, if we're going to talk about the form of the question, it doesn't ask if they can "try to hide" while observed (not that I think it matters, but you seem to). It asks if they are allowed <em>to hide</em> while observed. It's actually a fairly poorly worded question. Crawford couldn't very well have answered yes because he'd have been saying they could be both hidden and observed at the same time, which can't be right. If he'd simply said no, it would have done nothing to explain what the actual benefits of the traits are. This is why he chose to give a longer, more nuanced answer, and in doing so reframed the question as one of whether the traits could be used with observers nearby, rather than "while observed". Eyes can be "not seeing" just as well as observers can, especially when looking at something hidden, which is remarkably similar to the way the game refers to a creature that's trying to see something it can't as essentially having the blinded condition. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I believe the wood elf is cloaked as if by nature only after becoming hidden, rather than before. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thanks. This is clearly the exchange of tweets that was expanded into the Sage Advice article, and it has the same issue of Crawford reframing and not really answering the original question. I find it interesting that in the Sage Advice article the second part of the question was edited out, whereas Crawford's answer mostly elaborates on what the actual benefits of the traits are albeit in the same ambiguous language used in the original rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 6983768, member: 6787503"] First, if we're going to talk about the form of the question, it doesn't ask if they can "try to hide" while observed (not that I think it matters, but you seem to). It asks if they are allowed [I]to hide[/I] while observed. It's actually a fairly poorly worded question. Crawford couldn't very well have answered yes because he'd have been saying they could be both hidden and observed at the same time, which can't be right. If he'd simply said no, it would have done nothing to explain what the actual benefits of the traits are. This is why he chose to give a longer, more nuanced answer, and in doing so reframed the question as one of whether the traits could be used with observers nearby, rather than "while observed". Eyes can be "not seeing" just as well as observers can, especially when looking at something hidden, which is remarkably similar to the way the game refers to a creature that's trying to see something it can't as essentially having the blinded condition. Yes, I believe the wood elf is cloaked as if by nature only after becoming hidden, rather than before. Thanks. This is clearly the exchange of tweets that was expanded into the Sage Advice article, and it has the same issue of Crawford reframing and not really answering the original question. I find it interesting that in the Sage Advice article the second part of the question was edited out, whereas Crawford's answer mostly elaborates on what the actual benefits of the traits are albeit in the same ambiguous language used in the original rules. [/QUOTE]
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