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DM Help! My rogue always spams Hide as a bonus action, and i cant target him!
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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 6983944" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>I undestand your interpretation and I appreciate that you flipped the usual outcome of a tie in the DEX/WIS contest to reflect it. I have my own interpretation which works just fine. So in an effort to explain my interpretation to those who don't seem to get it, my response to the above is no, not if there's no one there to notice them when they do. I wouldn't let them hide if there was someone staring right at them before they were hidden and up until they tried to become hidden. That's because, in my game, an effort to hide is generally an effort to keep your whereabouts unknown rather than make them unknown, hiding in a suitably sized heavily obscured area or when invisible being the primary exceptions for obvious reasons. So if they have been allowed to become hidden then it can't be true that someone is there observing them at that moment. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm glad you asked this considering that [MENTION=6701422]Plaguescarred[/MENTION] and at least a few other posters really seem to think my interpretation leaves MotW with no discernable benefit. The benefit is that the wood elf can remain undiscovered under a circumstance in which a human would be immediately discovered. For example, a human, a lightfoot halfling, and a wood elf are sneaking through an enclosed courtyard which contains some areas of moderate foliage. They hear a patrol group coming, so the wood elf dives into the moderate foliage. The human follows suit, and the halfling steps behind the human. When the patrol comes within visual range they see the human, but if the elf and halfling roll high enough they are undiscovered. Compare this with what would have happened if it was three humans in the same situation. The elf and halfling have a clear advantage.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 6983944, member: 6787503"] I undestand your interpretation and I appreciate that you flipped the usual outcome of a tie in the DEX/WIS contest to reflect it. I have my own interpretation which works just fine. So in an effort to explain my interpretation to those who don't seem to get it, my response to the above is no, not if there's no one there to notice them when they do. I wouldn't let them hide if there was someone staring right at them before they were hidden and up until they tried to become hidden. That's because, in my game, an effort to hide is generally an effort to keep your whereabouts unknown rather than make them unknown, hiding in a suitably sized heavily obscured area or when invisible being the primary exceptions for obvious reasons. So if they have been allowed to become hidden then it can't be true that someone is there observing them at that moment. I'm glad you asked this considering that [MENTION=6701422]Plaguescarred[/MENTION] and at least a few other posters really seem to think my interpretation leaves MotW with no discernable benefit. The benefit is that the wood elf can remain undiscovered under a circumstance in which a human would be immediately discovered. For example, a human, a lightfoot halfling, and a wood elf are sneaking through an enclosed courtyard which contains some areas of moderate foliage. They hear a patrol group coming, so the wood elf dives into the moderate foliage. The human follows suit, and the halfling steps behind the human. When the patrol comes within visual range they see the human, but if the elf and halfling roll high enough they are undiscovered. Compare this with what would have happened if it was three humans in the same situation. The elf and halfling have a clear advantage. [/QUOTE]
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