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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6989349" data-attributes="member: 42582">Observe has a transitive use = &quot;I observed X&quot; which entails &quot;I saw X&quot; which entails &quot;X exists&quot;; and has an intransitive use eg &quot;While everyone else took part, I just observed&quot;. Which in that example, means &quot;looked on&quot;. And looking doesn't entail that anything was seen.This is why, for probably the course of several hundred posts by now, I've been saying the issue is not semantic. It's pratcical - how does a given table undertand the fiction, the nature of those racial abilities and how they fit with the fiction, relevant mechanical considerations, etc.As far as words are concerned, my view on the Sage Advice is that, if what Crawford meant to communicate is &quot;You can become unseen even if under direct observation&quot; - ie a &quot;yes&quot; answer to the question asked - he could hardly have done it in a more oblique way. My own view is that the ambiguity is deliberate, not incompetent, because the 5e hiding rules are meant to leave open a wide range of table variations.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6989349, member: 42582"] Observe has a transitive use = "I observed X" which entails "I saw X" which entails "X exists"; and has an intransitive use eg "While everyone else took part, I just observed". Which in that example, means "looked on". And [I]looking[/I] doesn't entail that anything was seen. This is why, for probably the course of several hundred posts by now, I've been saying the issue is not semantic. It's pratcical - how does a given table undertand the fiction, the nature of those racial abilities and how they fit with the fiction, relevant mechanical considerations, etc. As far as words are concerned, my view on the Sage Advice is that, if what Crawford meant to communicate is "You can become unseen even if under direct observation" - ie a "yes" answer to the question asked - he could hardly have done it in a more oblique way. My own view is that the ambiguity is deliberate, not incompetent, because the 5e hiding rules are meant to leave open a wide range of table variations. [/QUOTE]

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