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<blockquote data-quote="Ilbranteloth" data-source="post: 6990066" data-attributes="member: 6778044"><p>To me, the difference is that the elf can attempt it, even when under observation. Is it magical? I'd be OK with that for a creature such as an elf. </p><p></p><p>I have never felt that total cover (concealment) is required for hiding. Way to many examples in real life to require something that restrictive. But I think that an elf is better at disappearing in the natural environment. </p><p></p><p>I should also point out that as a DM I:</p><p>Don't particularly care about "balance" and keeping abilities entirely segregated by race/class, etc., but as I've noted, if you're an elf in a natural environment you'll be better at it (even if the actual rules are a bit clunky, a lot of it has to do with adjudication).</p><p></p><p>I'm not particularly interested in parsing RAW, or even RAI. What I care about is how we'll use the rules in our game, and consistency within that structure. So players know where I stand and what to expect. Having said that, in a public campaign, adherence to the rules in the published books becomes more important and if that's what I must do, then so be it. The game is written for a broad audience, and what works for that audience isn't always what works for us.</p><p></p><p>Ultimately the rules exist to help adjudicate and model the world and scenes within that world. And as much as I enjoy getting into the details of rules discussions like these, our table rules are far more dependent on a big picture view than the details.</p><p></p><p>Big picture view:</p><p>If you can reasonably explain how you are attempting to hide, keeping in mind whether the other creatures are actively watching you and only you, or are also paying attention to other things, there is a very high likelihood that you'll be able to attempt to hide.</p><p></p><p>The circumstances will dictate whether I decide you have advantage/disadvantage, or whether the other creature has advantage/disadvantage, or makes a passive or active check.</p><p></p><p>In some situations I might declare it impossible.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ilbranteloth, post: 6990066, member: 6778044"] To me, the difference is that the elf can attempt it, even when under observation. Is it magical? I'd be OK with that for a creature such as an elf. I have never felt that total cover (concealment) is required for hiding. Way to many examples in real life to require something that restrictive. But I think that an elf is better at disappearing in the natural environment. I should also point out that as a DM I: Don't particularly care about "balance" and keeping abilities entirely segregated by race/class, etc., but as I've noted, if you're an elf in a natural environment you'll be better at it (even if the actual rules are a bit clunky, a lot of it has to do with adjudication). I'm not particularly interested in parsing RAW, or even RAI. What I care about is how we'll use the rules in our game, and consistency within that structure. So players know where I stand and what to expect. Having said that, in a public campaign, adherence to the rules in the published books becomes more important and if that's what I must do, then so be it. The game is written for a broad audience, and what works for that audience isn't always what works for us. Ultimately the rules exist to help adjudicate and model the world and scenes within that world. And as much as I enjoy getting into the details of rules discussions like these, our table rules are far more dependent on a big picture view than the details. Big picture view: If you can reasonably explain how you are attempting to hide, keeping in mind whether the other creatures are actively watching you and only you, or are also paying attention to other things, there is a very high likelihood that you'll be able to attempt to hide. The circumstances will dictate whether I decide you have advantage/disadvantage, or whether the other creature has advantage/disadvantage, or makes a passive or active check. In some situations I might declare it impossible. [/QUOTE]
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