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DM Help! My rogue always spams Hide as a bonus action, and i cant target him!
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<blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 6992393" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>I'm aware you've bowed out of the thread, so please don't feel as if you need to respond to this, but I feel your post warrants a reply.</p><p></p><p>First, I agree about elves being unseen. I don't think there's any reason to assume that MotW would give a wood elf unseen attacker advantage without requiring it to be hidden.</p><p></p><p>Second, I think your (i) above is assumed to be true of any creature unless specific effort is made to stay quiet, represented in combat by the Hide action. (I don't think stillness is really a part of this though, which is why I usually require a full 5 feet of obstruction to hide behind, allowing the normal range of movement to be taken while hidden.) For me, "just hanging out" isn't the same as a declaration to stay quiet or try to be stealthy, so if I understand correctly, when A turns the corner, B has a chance to try to hide before being spotted if the player wishes. In my games, a declaration to be stealthy or perform some action that requires a stealthy approach would need to have been made by B's player before A turned the corner to avoid A seeing B.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't think it's meant to be very strong. Taken together with FoF (an extra 5 feet of movement), it should be the equivalent of the high elf's extra language and cantrip, neither of which really add much in the way of combat utility. The difference between 1d8 damage from <em>ray of frost</em> and 1d8 damage from a longbow (already available to the elf) is primarily one of flavor.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hriston, post: 6992393, member: 6787503"] I'm aware you've bowed out of the thread, so please don't feel as if you need to respond to this, but I feel your post warrants a reply. First, I agree about elves being unseen. I don't think there's any reason to assume that MotW would give a wood elf unseen attacker advantage without requiring it to be hidden. Second, I think your (i) above is assumed to be true of any creature unless specific effort is made to stay quiet, represented in combat by the Hide action. (I don't think stillness is really a part of this though, which is why I usually require a full 5 feet of obstruction to hide behind, allowing the normal range of movement to be taken while hidden.) For me, "just hanging out" isn't the same as a declaration to stay quiet or try to be stealthy, so if I understand correctly, when A turns the corner, B has a chance to try to hide before being spotted if the player wishes. In my games, a declaration to be stealthy or perform some action that requires a stealthy approach would need to have been made by B's player before A turned the corner to avoid A seeing B. I don't think it's meant to be very strong. Taken together with FoF (an extra 5 feet of movement), it should be the equivalent of the high elf's extra language and cantrip, neither of which really add much in the way of combat utility. The difference between 1d8 damage from [I]ray of frost[/I] and 1d8 damage from a longbow (already available to the elf) is primarily one of flavor. [/QUOTE]
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