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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 5585387" data-attributes="member: 762">If I substituted &quot;consequences&quot; for &quot;punished&quot; in the above paragraph it reads exactly the same with the exact same intent - yet are you actually saying there should be no consequences for making a decision? And further that consequences = railroading; because that seems the logical step - and yet I believe that is flat out wrong. The thing about the above paragraph is the choice is designed and presented poorly and in a very one sided way, but it's not railroading unless the PCs actually can't make it (that btw is why the Dragonlance adventures actually are railroads - if the PCs do not make the presented choice the adventure stops dead, there is literally nowhere else to go unless the DM completely adlibs).Not all (or even many) decision points in an adventure (or even campaign) should be do x or face dire consequences - but they do and should come up. That's not railroading, it's making the players think about their actions and face consequences (good and bad) for the decisions they make. I think the term railroading is getting vastly overused these days - and too often being applied in a &quot;I don't like x = railroading&quot; manner. Railroading is the elimination of player choice. presenting bad choices, disproportionate choices/rewards for certain actions may be heavy handed and may be &quot;bad DMing&quot; but it's not railroading unless no choice exists.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mort, post: 5585387, member: 762"] If I substituted "consequences" for "punished" in the above paragraph it reads exactly the same with the exact same intent - yet are you actually saying there should be no consequences for making a decision? And further that consequences = railroading; because that seems the logical step - and yet I believe that is flat out wrong. The thing about the above paragraph is the choice is designed and presented poorly and in a very one sided way, but it's not railroading unless the PCs [b]actually[/b] can't make it (that btw is why the Dragonlance adventures actually are railroads - if the PCs do not make the presented choice the adventure stops dead, there is literally nowhere else to go unless the DM completely adlibs). Not all (or even many) decision points in an adventure (or even campaign) should be do x or face dire consequences - but they do and should come up. That's not railroading, it's making the players think about their actions and face consequences (good and bad) for the decisions they make. I think the term railroading is getting vastly overused these days - and too often being applied in a "I don't like x = railroading" manner. Railroading is the elimination of player choice. presenting bad choices, disproportionate choices/rewards for certain actions may be heavy handed and may be "bad DMing" but it's not railroading unless no choice exists. [/QUOTE]

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