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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chingerspy" data-source="post: 1795496" data-attributes="member: 9971">BH - Sounds like your DM was being an arse or was just incapable of changing his ways. Did any of you tell him you orchestrated the TPK and why afterwards? Or will any of you ever?A DM that doesn't suit a players / groups styles is a bad thing and is probably better handled in an honest way. I.e. rather than sneaking off to play with another DM tell the current one "Hey look; you don't change, we won't play. No point in wasting everyones time and effort on something we cannot hope to enjoy if changes are not made." Maybe the DM will get the message that he will no longer have a group and start to change his ways. Or he will agree that he cannot provide an environment where everyone is happy.Also out of interest have any of the group been DM themselves? It sounds like they haven't.</blockquote>