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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8119689" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><a href="https://youtu.be/kfnsbFgysZk" target="_blank">WebDM had a video on this</a>, and I'm wondering if I'm the only one that has a completely different experience from either of them in using DM PCs. Examples from my campaigns, including one bad experience where I've had to change the NPC to better fit their role as an NPC. <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ianto Pendraig (the least good experience with a DMPC, for me) - Started out as a charming prince of a gothic pagan Welsh Empire descended from Mordred Pendraig, in an alt history game where everyone played a gish swashbuckler of some kind, attending an international academy. For bonus dork points, every character was on a magical parkour rugby sport team at the school. <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Ianto had to be toned down eventually, because his mannerisms made the other PCs want to defer to him, so we had an OOC discussion about it and Ianto because somewhat reluctant to lead, tired of the responsibility, and became noticeably less outwardly charming and socially assertive.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Role in the game was to be liason to the royal court, source of quests, and the person with the authority to form a team to look into strange happenings in and around the school.</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Finnan O'Foalan Mac Morwlaeth - Started as a PC, DM stopped playing with us for a while, campaign was already one in which all three of the group's DMs took that role at different times.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">When I took over, Finnan had a post-death experience and became much more of a support character, using control abilities to set up combos for the PCs in combat, and only chiming in to salvage bad rolls in social and exploration situations.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Over time, the game became much more personal to me and the two other participants, and Finnan's role has grown a bit, but he is still a support character. Usually, I'll set up fights so that it's mostly up to the other two PCs, and Finnan lurks around quietly ganking flanking enemies and the like. </li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Khalid Al Ghurab - Like Finnan, he started as a PC, then that DM moved, and we continued the campaign without him. Khalid, luckily, had always been a quiet brooding presence who was terrifying in a fight. Most of the time he is a narrated presence at the outside of a fight, essentially engaging in a second combat at the periphery of the main fight. Other times that doesn't work and he is fully engaged in the initiative, tending to take on a single brute or a small group by himself. In other situations he is more of a direct presence.</li> </ul>I've never had any of them get the good loot, or have a bunch of secret knowledge the PCs don't have access to, etc. They're just part of the story, except when another DM in the group takes over for a short story arc and I get to fully engage with them as a PC. Generally, I make suer that these characters are foils to another character in the party, and that when they speak or do cool things it serves to drive another character to action, challenge them, spotlight their skills, etc. Has anyone else had good experiences with DM PCs?</blockquote>

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