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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 2405943" data-attributes="member: 30001">As I said then - play your deities accordingly.&nbsp; You're a DM, and you've got a deity NPC to play - and here he has a rogue cleric that isn't acting within the bounds of the faith.&nbsp; Why is this frustrating?&nbsp; Your deity says (cue Darth Vader voice):&nbsp; &quot;Bob, I find you're lack of faith disturbing.&nbsp; You have failed me for the last time.&quot;&nbsp; There's no reason to prevent Bob from creating a cleric character, just have him deal with the consequences!&nbsp;It's a great idea to use &quot;real world&quot; faiths as an example because real world faiths include TONS of examples of people failing to live up to their ideals and the consequences are varied and lead to plenty of role-playing opportunities.&nbsp; Of course reading too much of the religious history of humanity might cause you to re-examine your (IMO) idealistic conception of the cleric and religion to begin with.&nbsp; IMO there is nothing &quot;true to life&quot; about a game system that can't accomodate the Bob's of the world because I can guarrantee you that there have been plenty of &quot;Bobs&quot; at the highest levels of all religious heirarchies.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 2405943, member: 30001"] As I said then - play your deities accordingly. You're a DM, and you've got a deity NPC to play - and here he has a rogue cleric that isn't acting within the bounds of the faith. Why is this frustrating? Your deity says (cue Darth Vader voice): "Bob, I find you're lack of faith disturbing. You have failed me for the last time." There's no reason to prevent Bob from creating a cleric character, just have him deal with the consequences! It's a great idea to use "real world" faiths as an example because real world faiths include TONS of examples of people failing to live up to their ideals and the consequences are varied and lead to plenty of role-playing opportunities. Of course reading too much of the religious history of humanity might cause you to re-examine your (IMO) idealistic conception of the cleric and religion to begin with. IMO there is nothing "true to life" about a game system that can't accomodate the Bob's of the world because I can guarrantee you that there have been plenty of "Bobs" at the highest levels of all religious heirarchies. [/QUOTE]

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