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<blockquote data-quote="Caliban" data-source="post: 7199203" data-attributes="member: 284">Baseline 5e is fairly well balanced.&nbsp; Problem is, almost no one actually plays baseline 5e.&nbsp;&nbsp; Feats and multiclassing are optional, not part of the core system.&nbsp; But (almost) everyone uses them.&nbsp; Magic items are explicitly not required, but most games (especially the hardcover adventure books from WOTC) hand them out like candy.&nbsp;&nbsp; So, the game is balanced assuming little or no magic items,&nbsp; no feats, and no multiclassing. Once you allow those in...well, the balance changes in favor of the PC's.&nbsp; &nbsp; Most groups of PC's are going to end up overpowered compared to the baseline opponents in the MM or hardcover books.I personally have no problem with this - it lets me make the bad guys and monsters even weirder and more unique, or just throw hordes of lesser bad guys at them.&nbsp; (Why have fireball in the game if you aren't going to give the wizard a horde to use it on?) How do you know when you have placed enough orcs on the battle map?&nbsp; &nbsp; Keep adding mini's until you hear an audible gasp from one of the players.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Caliban, post: 7199203, member: 284"] Baseline 5e is fairly well balanced. Problem is, almost no one actually plays baseline 5e. Feats and multiclassing are optional, not part of the core system. But (almost) everyone uses them. Magic items are explicitly not required, but most games (especially the hardcover adventure books from WOTC) hand them out like candy. So, the game is balanced assuming little or no magic items, no feats, and no multiclassing. Once you allow those in...well, the balance changes in favor of the PC's. Most groups of PC's are going to end up overpowered compared to the baseline opponents in the MM or hardcover books. I personally have no problem with this - it lets me make the bad guys and monsters even weirder and more unique, or just throw hordes of lesser bad guys at them. (Why have fireball in the game if you aren't going to give the wizard a horde to use it on?) How do you know when you have placed enough orcs on the battle map? Keep adding mini's until you hear an audible gasp from one of the players. [/QUOTE]

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