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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 5843084" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>Sounds to me like your group is very young, either in real age terms or in RPG experience terms. If that's the case, and if you people are friends of each other, maybe you can actually keep playing and learn more about what so far seems to be pretty much a mix of playing mistakes and DMing mistakes. At least you'll learn what shouldn't be done.</p><p></p><p>It does sound to me like this DM is struggling to even understand what a DM is. Perhaps he's trying to "win" the game against you or at best he's railroading the group.</p><p></p><p>But there are other problems.</p><p></p><p>First your assumption on treasure, it's just wrong. Instead of whining about not having enough treasure, see this as one of the many possible ways of playing the game. Maybe your favourite way is another, but now you're playing this so just play this well. I also want to point out that although it's true that 200gp of equipment at 4th level is definitely below the average D&D game (at least in 3ed), 3-4 levels of experience in 7 sessions means he's been giving you a lot of XP, in an average game you would be probably at 2nd level still.</p><p></p><p>Second, attacking each other's PC is one of the most "rookie" mistakes in a RPG. It very rarely runs smoothly even for the most experienced of gamers, and yet this happens usually from true beginners who still haven't even understood that a game of D&D is almost always (I cannot stress this enough... with <strong>very rare</strong> exceptions) a cooperative group effort. It doesn't matter if "but my character would have done that!", because characters like that would normally not be in a PC party (even in an evil campaign you have to understand that something like this requires very mature players and IMHO should only be allowed if everyone accepts the possible consequences).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 5843084, member: 1465"] Sounds to me like your group is very young, either in real age terms or in RPG experience terms. If that's the case, and if you people are friends of each other, maybe you can actually keep playing and learn more about what so far seems to be pretty much a mix of playing mistakes and DMing mistakes. At least you'll learn what shouldn't be done. It does sound to me like this DM is struggling to even understand what a DM is. Perhaps he's trying to "win" the game against you or at best he's railroading the group. But there are other problems. First your assumption on treasure, it's just wrong. Instead of whining about not having enough treasure, see this as one of the many possible ways of playing the game. Maybe your favourite way is another, but now you're playing this so just play this well. I also want to point out that although it's true that 200gp of equipment at 4th level is definitely below the average D&D game (at least in 3ed), 3-4 levels of experience in 7 sessions means he's been giving you a lot of XP, in an average game you would be probably at 2nd level still. Second, attacking each other's PC is one of the most "rookie" mistakes in a RPG. It very rarely runs smoothly even for the most experienced of gamers, and yet this happens usually from true beginners who still haven't even understood that a game of D&D is almost always (I cannot stress this enough... with [B]very rare[/B] exceptions) a cooperative group effort. It doesn't matter if "but my character would have done that!", because characters like that would normally not be in a PC party (even in an evil campaign you have to understand that something like this requires very mature players and IMHO should only be allowed if everyone accepts the possible consequences). [/QUOTE]
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