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<blockquote data-quote="InvincibleWall" data-source="post: 5843683" data-attributes="member: 6690653">Lol I am sorry for adding the extra question without explanationI was asking for 2 reasons, 1 because I would like to learn how to DM eventually and 2 because of a very odd encounter we had with some guards gambling at a table.We walked into a guard house and the guards were gambling at the table, they weren't aware of us. I started sneaking up to them and the Ranger HawkEye just opened fire. Now it is my understanding that this basically started a surprise round but right after the shots were fired and before initiative was rolled, the guard with his back to us whirled around, drew his sword used charge and ran 45 feet and then used a full round attack action (oh and he ran past me with no attack of opportunity) he got a crit on the ranger and then we rolled initiative... I was a bit baffled. I asked how he did that and he said &quot;Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, Uncanny Dodge, Rapid something or other that he described as the melee version of rapid shot and Improved Charge&quot;it ended up being a CR2 elf guard (calculated from the exp we earned since he told us where we got it in that encounter)I now know that even with those feats he can't do that, but if they did why was that a CR2???????</blockquote>

[QUOTE="InvincibleWall, post: 5843683, member: 6690653"] Lol I am sorry for adding the extra question without explanation I was asking for 2 reasons, 1 because I would like to learn how to DM eventually and 2 because of a very odd encounter we had with some guards gambling at a table. We walked into a guard house and the guards were gambling at the table, they weren't aware of us. I started sneaking up to them and the Ranger HawkEye just opened fire. Now it is my understanding that this basically started a surprise round but right after the shots were fired and before initiative was rolled, the guard with his back to us whirled around, drew his sword used charge and ran 45 feet and then used a full round attack action (oh and he ran past me with no attack of opportunity) he got a crit on the ranger and then we rolled initiative... I was a bit baffled. I asked how he did that and he said "Improved Initiative, Quick Draw, Uncanny Dodge, Rapid something or other that he described as the melee version of rapid shot and Improved Charge" it ended up being a CR2 elf guard (calculated from the exp we earned since he told us where we got it in that encounter) I now know that even with those feats he can't do that, but if they did why was that a CR2??????? [/QUOTE]

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