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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 261460" data-attributes="member: 5834"><p><strong>Re</strong></p><p></p><p>Good information. </p><p></p><p>I still wonder about detect invisibility and true seeing though.</p><p></p><p>Why? </p><p></p><p>The spell states that a person scrying would not see a mind blanked individual. Even if they were just randomly scrying an area that the mind blank individual happened to be in, the mind blanked individual would not show up. If you you cast a detection spell while scrying, it would not affect a mind blanked individual in the area, or that is what I think.</p><p></p><p>I see no reason why true seeing or detect invisibility would detect an invisibly mind blanked individual. If it blocks the location of the individual by divination, then why would it not stop true seeing and detect invisibility from locating an individual who is invisible.</p><p></p><p>Scrying works under the same principle. If you had several objects and people in a location, a mind blanked individual would not show up, yet all the other people and objects would. The same is not true if you have several invisible people in the same area? What spell allows a person to block detection from short range divinations? Non-detection? If this is not the case, then there would be far more dead casters and deep gnomes because they certainly would not be able to stealth about if low level divinations cannot be countered by spells like Mind Blank and Non-detection. No intelligent guard wizard or race who has access to magic would fail to employ such minor magics to detect such encroachments upon their lands.</p><p></p><p>Basically, it seems there is no spell able to block detection by such simple spells as detect magic, detect invisibility and true seeing even though they are some of the least of the divinations because they detect things indirectly. If Mind Blank and Non-detection don't work against short range divinations as well as long range, than they have little practical use.</p><p></p><p>This leads to another question: Can one use detect magic to detect any hidden or obscured magical object or magically hidden individual? This is a 0 lvl spell , yet if Mind Blank doesn't work against detect invisibility and true seeing, then their is no reason to believe that an indirect spell like detect magic wouldn't be equally as effective against invisible or obscured objects and creatues. This kind of defeats the purpose of even trying to use magic to hide people or objects if such simple low level spells can easily defeat them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 261460, member: 5834"] [b]Re[/b] Good information. I still wonder about detect invisibility and true seeing though. Why? The spell states that a person scrying would not see a mind blanked individual. Even if they were just randomly scrying an area that the mind blank individual happened to be in, the mind blanked individual would not show up. If you you cast a detection spell while scrying, it would not affect a mind blanked individual in the area, or that is what I think. I see no reason why true seeing or detect invisibility would detect an invisibly mind blanked individual. If it blocks the location of the individual by divination, then why would it not stop true seeing and detect invisibility from locating an individual who is invisible. Scrying works under the same principle. If you had several objects and people in a location, a mind blanked individual would not show up, yet all the other people and objects would. The same is not true if you have several invisible people in the same area? What spell allows a person to block detection from short range divinations? Non-detection? If this is not the case, then there would be far more dead casters and deep gnomes because they certainly would not be able to stealth about if low level divinations cannot be countered by spells like Mind Blank and Non-detection. No intelligent guard wizard or race who has access to magic would fail to employ such minor magics to detect such encroachments upon their lands. Basically, it seems there is no spell able to block detection by such simple spells as detect magic, detect invisibility and true seeing even though they are some of the least of the divinations because they detect things indirectly. If Mind Blank and Non-detection don't work against short range divinations as well as long range, than they have little practical use. This leads to another question: Can one use detect magic to detect any hidden or obscured magical object or magically hidden individual? This is a 0 lvl spell , yet if Mind Blank doesn't work against detect invisibility and true seeing, then their is no reason to believe that an indirect spell like detect magic wouldn't be equally as effective against invisible or obscured objects and creatues. This kind of defeats the purpose of even trying to use magic to hide people or objects if such simple low level spells can easily defeat them. [/QUOTE]
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